Comments: Nemeroff Accused Of "Science Pimping"
Wow, who could ever say a psychiatrist is a "leading neuroscientist"? I missed something- are we all suffering from a Paxil deficiency? Where's the neuroscience?
Posted by kimbriel at November 6, 2009 02:07 PM
I agree. I never get that kind of psych rhetoric as anything else other than fluff. I know nothing of any merit more compared to when I was an intern 20 years ago really. Psych "science" is a fraud. It is little more than data collection. I look at my journals and it reminds me of reading old gym muscle mags. The faces change but the content gets recycled month after month. Nothing ever changes.Pure speculation and articles about "this may effect that" and "this may help that". Pathetic.
Posted by Dr John at November 6, 2009 03:06 PM
'economical with the truth'
I'm reading it with a smile on my face which is rare whenever I come here.
:)
Well... Nemeroff, Nemeroff...
Why only him?
Dunno.
Anyway, "shenanigans" ????
Philip,
This is the first time I read this word.
I loved it.
I will learn how to pronounce it.
lol
shenanigans, shenanigans, shenanigans, nothing more than shenanigans...
Wow!
:)
ROFL
LOL
Posted by Ana at November 6, 2009 07:37 PM
Dr. Nemeroff is a big pharma whore, no way around it.
From undisclosed ties to drug-makers and under-reported incomes to his stepping down as department chair (Emory University) amid revelations that he had received over $960,000 from GSK in 2006, yet reported less than $35,000 to the school... it's all bad. I recall later investigations revealed payments totaling more than $2.5 million from drug companies between 2000 and 2006, yet only a fraction was disclosed. Shame.
This shrink is a creep and a patsy for the pharmaceutical industrial complex; the fact U of M vouches for him says as much about this university as it does about this scientific fraud. Shameful all around.
Posted by The Skeptic at November 6, 2009 10:26 PM
I admit to being stunned this guy could get a new job (and a fancy farewell party from Emory to boot apparently -- or was that Keller from Brown?) Anyway. . . I guess there are lots of others who are still getting fancy pay checks for suspect, unethical work. Not that different from Wall Street really and now that I think of it, in some ways, it's all tied together.
Posted by Sara at November 7, 2009 07:53 AM
Dr John,
Again, you hit the nail on the head. Reading the psych journals makes me feel stupid, like psychiatrists are a bunch of wannabe scientists trying to gussy up meaningless data points and statistical measures to make themselves sound technical and, therefore, more authoritative.
Lipstick on a pig, as they say.
Posted by SteveBMD at November 7, 2009 10:00 AM
"...expert in 'basic neuroscience,' studying underlying pathologies and proteins in the brain that cause mental illness..."
It really bugs me when people state unknowns as immutable fact... It's so boring, there's no room for discourse. Then again, maybe that's the idea!
Having said that, there is no evidence that brain chemistry affects mental wellness/illness, one way or the other. Because it doesn't! There: fuck you, Lieberperson - I can state the unproveable as fact, too!
Ana: If you like "shenanigans" (pron: SHINN-ANN-IG-UNNS), then you might like to look up "chicanery," and, better still, "jiggery-pokery"!
Matt
Posted by Matthew Holford at November 7, 2009 04:30 PM
You could also invoke Winston Churchill's expression 'terminological inexactitude.' It captures much of the deceit on which Pharma and KOLs like Nemeroff rely.
Posted by adam at November 7, 2009 06:40 PM
Matt,
I have asked an American how to pronounce it. :)
Chicanery= chicaneiro in Portuguese.
All Latin words English have are easily translated.
But "shenanigans" is still a great word!
Thank you for "jiggery-pokery"!
lol
Sara,
Maybe Nemeroff should stay just to be easier to know what is the psychiatry Emory promotes.
Guess I will have to make a post with the title
Philip Dawdy writes about Nemeroff's shenanigans"
"While the commenters talk about chicanery and jiggery-pokery and even in a more sophisticated way "terminological inexactitude", Dr. Charles Nemeroff, MD, PHd and other titles..."
Posted by Ana at November 10, 2009 09:56 AM