Comments: Media List Of Non-Pharma Whore Medical Experts Now Online
No surprise to see Carlat on there either.
Posted by Marissa at July 29, 2008 10:57 AM
The whole list is "suspect", in my opinion, because of the inclusion of Peter Kramer of Brown.
He is the author of "Listening to Prozac" which helped to launch America on SSRIs. If people wonder why so many are taking Zyprexa, Respirdal, Seroquel, Depakote, etc., etc., they can always look to Peter Kramer for the reason [partial reason, that is]. Just because he has no ties to Pharma doesn't mean he didn't help many, many people go "Nuts" on Prozac & other SSRIs, thus starting them on a life-time of mood stabilizers and antipsychotics with the diagnosis of "bipolar" disorder.
Also, I don't understand how some of these people can be medical experts when they don't have an M.D. or even a Ph.D after their name. Perhaps this means they have expertise in publishing.
I also noticed a few absences from the list. What about Dr. Anthony Joseph of Harvard Medical School who testified in the Edgewater Technology massacre [ seven dead] that ""I would offer the opinion that it's very possible that Prozac is the final piece of the puzzle that explains the level of rage and anger that allowed the killings to occur".
Otherwise, it is good to have a list such as this but people also need to be warned that "no ties" to Pharma doesn't mean innocence.
Posted by Rosie C. at July 29, 2008 01:36 PM
I didn't understand why Charles Medawar is on the list.
He's not a physician.
Although he created SocialAudit, knows much more than many psychiatrists and is a very dedicated person he is not a psychiatrist.
He wrote "Medicine out of Control" and his name is on the "The Influence of Pharmaceutical Industry" review as one of the persons that helped.
He's a great activist and helped many people.
I believe he has retire.
Posted by Ana at July 29, 2008 04:18 PM
Why wouldn't they include Patricia Deegan, who not only has three bright initials after her name (PhD), but pretty much ignited the revolution in the mental health system towards a more "Recovery-oriented" focus? She is also diagnosed with schizophrenia, so she may have something important to say about it. You know, that's what gets me so much. We don't look to white people to be experts on black people, nor heterosexual people to be experts on homosexual people, nor men to be experts on women, so why do we look to people with no personal experience of extreme states to be experts on us? In fact, we don't even discuss that point very often. I guess people still beleive that we can't write or speak in complete and truthful sentences...
Posted by Steven Morgan at July 29, 2008 06:03 PM
Steven,
The list appears to be partial. She could have been part of the other half that's been left off.
Posted by Marissa at July 29, 2008 07:28 PM
Didn't Healy recently co-author a valentine to electroshock? Maybe the industry thanked him.
Posted by flawedplan at July 30, 2008 12:58 AM
The list is really strange.
Patricia Deegan is not there as Steven has noticed, David Healy and Erick Turner as Philip remembered... and there are other people from power2u...
Posted by Ana at July 30, 2008 05:24 AM
I've seen the whole list in PDF and Pat Deegan ain't there. I have a copy of the file from BMJ if anyone wants to hunt me down through my blog I'll email it to you.
Posted by Gianna at July 30, 2008 08:29 AM
Yeah, Healy and electroshock needs to be discussed! That's the issue I have with Healy anyway.
Posted by Stephany at July 30, 2008 08:36 AM
Healy and electroshock?
:o)
Strange. He must read some Peter Bregguin.
:)
The list is funny because it has no surprises.
I would like to see the list with the name of those who admit receiving. Some of them do.
I don't have the link now but I remember one of them asking not to judge his ethics because he received money from lab.
What strikes me is that WE, due to ethic questions, cannot name the psychiatrist who did wrong.
Why is that?
Willian Styron, in "Darkness Visible" not in "Sophie's Choice", tell stories about real people using their names but he invented a name to his doctor who prescribed him an insane dose of Halcion and told him that he could have it as aspirin.
Fortunately he got depressed and recovered before Prozac. He also made an interview talking about this period of his life that is very beautiful.
Posted by Ana at July 31, 2008 09:36 AM