Comments: Seattle Suicide Bridge May Get Barrier, Adobe Execs Could Care Less
This is a good article. The Space Needle alone should be proof enough that simple barriers save lives. Standing over 500 feet above pavement, I think that speaks for itself, along with the iconic suicide ideal. The barrier took away, in my opinion a right to fame no one wants anyone to own.
I have a personal story, that belongs on my blog, but needs to be here. I saw the horrified look on a construction worker's face when my daughter aimed the car toward him in an attempt to "do self harm". I know what I felt without question; I knew 3 people were going to die.
Because of the simple orange cones [barriers] on the roadside, no one did.
Posted by Stephany at September 25, 2007 05:02 PM
Stephany, thanks. I was wondering about the Space Needle.
As for Adobe, I am going to find a software alternative and wipe them off my computer.
That's the only way to talk to these corporations. Hit em where it counts. Breaking news about GM striking, who knows,maybe a Reader boycott? Make a website without Flash?
Or maybe some poor person has to land on on an Adobe exec or his/her spouse or child for the appropriate measures to be taken.
Posted by susan at September 25, 2007 11:34 PM
"And if you cannot understand that, then I cannot help you."
Philip, I don't understand and I'm asking for your help.
My concern is that such measures do not prevent suicide. They merely prevent bridge jumping wherever there's a net.
I doubt very much anyone ever went down to the bridge, peered over the side, saw the net, and went home and watched television instead.
I agree that suicide isn't painless. But I also believe that when you compare the pain of someone ready to jump, relative to the pain of a witness, our sympathy (and policy!) belong with the suicide.
Philip, you're a very bright guy and I respect your opinion greatly. But I'm at a loss to understand why you're okay with carrying a gun yet so adamant about bridge nets.
What are the stats on successful suicide methods, anyway? I live close to Vancouver Island. We've got overpasses, buildings, bridges and cliffs and I'm not tempted. But I know, for sure, that had I been allowed to carry a gun that I wouldn't be here today.
Jumpers mean business. If there's a net on one bridge, they'll find another. Your analogy (stop sign next to the new development) is right on. The only thing a net will do is improve surrounding property values.
Posted by Francesca Allan at September 29, 2007 08:14 AM
Francesca, I appreciate your comments. Very close to my own thoughts. If they want a net, fine. but folks who have decided they are done here are done, and they'll figure out how to make it done, far as i can tell.
I've lost more people to suicide than most, so that may slant my world view a bit, but the way i see it, we are born into this world with only one thing, and leave it with only one thing, and that thing is our life. I dont support the decision, but I certainly respect the choice. I struggle with the idea that its illegal to take your own life. that seems a crazy law to me. yes, crazy. it makes no sense. your life is your own. you give me free speech, you tell me i can live my life how i please, but i cant end it how i please? very strange cultural taboo.
my father jumped off that bridge. would a net have changed his decision, so that he would stay around to slowly die of the brain damage brought on by poor choices in his youth? no. he would have found a different route. his note said it was about dignity, he wanted to die while he still had the mind and the self that he knew himself as. its aweful, but there can be dignity in it.
i dont know. its a hard issue. and it does seem clear: the one thing a net will change is property values. everything else remains the same open but taboo question... and those who choose the option will be pushed to some other margin.
Posted by little goat at October 2, 2007 09:59 PM