August 28, 2009Mom On Meds Justifies It AllAn utterly fascinating piece appeared in the St. Petersburg Times today by Katherine Snow Smith who recounted a series of blow-ups with her three children, the final straw being one over her kids fighting over Miley Cyrus and Hannah Montana DVDs. Mom ends up on meds--she doesn't identify which one--and with the fight over the Disney material the thing is so All-American that it gives a lovely picture of our times. "Late that night I called my husband, who was out of town, and told him of my blow-up. (My confessional left out the four-letter word.) He said, as he usually did when I came clean about screaming at the kids, that they pretty much deserved it. Maybe just don't reprimand them so loudly the next time. Six of eight? Better moms? Huh? I cannot criticize Smith's personal decision. It's her body, so have at it. But I do have to ask: What the hell is going on with this country and its people that we're getting all doped-up on SSRIs and the like over the stresses of daily life and parenting and think that's making us better? Where has this kind of thing gone on before? Oh, wait. It was in America in the 50s, 60s and 70s when stressed out, agitated, anxiety-riddled Americans were taking Miltown, Valium and all those other benzos and downers and whatnot. We know how that turned out: Miltown pulled from the market and Valium junkies all over the place. It's difficult to make an argument that anti-depressants are really awesome drugs on a culture-wide basis. The drugs have too many problems. You know about that already. "My doctor said he prescribes mood-enhancing medications about 10 times a week. He showed me a diagram of the brain and how certain medications can restore the balance of serotonin, a natural substance in the brain, which helps improve certain mood problems. [How did that last line get past an editor? The serotonin hypothesis is just that, a hypothesis not settled science.] Smith pretty much answers her own question in the last graf, but you've got to wonder--knowing what she knows and acknowledges--what kind of example she's setting for her children in turning to drugs (ones she could become dependent on, at a minimum) in settling her own situational anxiety. I know these are deeply-trying times in America (and elsewhere, too, of course). They are for me, too. But turning to a class of drugs known to be dangerous in some cases and with a dizzying host of side effects in many cases doesn't strike me as an intelligent way to operate as a culture. And to write about it all so blithely...well, you just don't know what to say. Yoga, yes. Prozac, no. Posted by Philip Dawdy at August 28, 2009 03:02 PM
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The Moms at the camp sound like the Stepford Wives. Posted by: Marlboro at August 28, 2009 05:36 PMBut you feature Therese Borchard's Beyond Blue on your blog roll, and she writes frequently about taking medication while facing similar dilemmas to this woman (though, unlike this woman, Therese is clearly clinically depressed). Yoga vs. Prozac is a false dichotomy in that case. Or maybe it's just because Therese is more eloquent? Philip Dawdy responds: the yoga thing was a small joke. i have all kind of people on my blogroll who take meds, advocate for the same Posted by: Larry at August 28, 2009 06:18 PMI WISH my mother had taken meds. She was freaking psycho. Posted by: NiroZ at August 28, 2009 10:09 PMWell, I am torn about this post. On the one hand, after being depressed since I started high school, and literally trying every homeopathic, alternative treatment out there, I finally got to the point where I tried medication, 10 years later. The result was much more than I could ever have hoped for, and I think in many ways medication helped me to pick myself back up. That being said, you make an excellent point. One of the saddest and scariest things to me, is people going to see their GP, and getting a prescription to Prozac without any sort of specialized care or therapy. In fact, I find it irresponsible of a GP to do this, rather than referring someone to a psychiatrist. As someone who has been helped by medication, I can't disregard some of the positive effects it has had for me. BUT, it wasn't a magical cure, I had to work very very hard in lots of therapy to better understand my depressions etc. What I'm trying to say is, medication can be great, as long as it's in conjunction with some kind of talk therapy, or hell, even yoga if it helps you to relax. Medication simply gives you a little more stability from which you can work out things for yourself. Clearly, if you have issues yelling at your kids, a pill isn't going to cure that by itself! Posted by: Lindsey at August 28, 2009 10:20 PMOoh, too bad about about the joke. I'm famous for saying, "Say No to Psych Drugs and Yes to Yoga!" (I have no problems with people who decide to take psych drugs, though) Posted by: kimbriel at August 28, 2009 10:32 PMParenthood (childhood and adulthood too) can be stressful but it would seem a lot healthier for this woman to take responsibility for her actions and unwind every so often with a glass of wine and/or a joint (after her yoga class). Maybe she should make changes in her daily routine to relieve some of the stress she's feeling. One problem with SSRI's is they cause continuous 24/7 intoxication and can't be taken just when you need them thus when under the influence of ssri's you become more dangerous than someone who is drunk or high on another drug that is better understood and safer. Still if someone wants to experiment with these drugs it's probably better to get them from a gp and research them yourself as a gp won't give you a psych label and unfortunately psychiatrists are much less likely than a gp to have a complete medical history, consider drug interactions, and view you as a human being wanting to relax rather than as a defective sub human to be labeled and controlled than a gp. Posted by: Sally at August 29, 2009 12:46 AMPeace be with you Philip "And though she's not really ill You nailed it Philip. I noticed she mentioned that she should try yoga, and exercise and such, but she doesn't. She also doesn't mention giving up coffee, alcohol, or junk food. The same type of people who are victims of psychiatrist today are the same types as in the past, and "hysteria" was of course the first. And Lindsey, you haven't "literally try[ed] every homeopathic, alternative treatment out there." I believe you have tried many, but not "literally every" one. There are ways to get off these meds. The problem is that makes us responsible for our feelings, not our "brain chemistry." I know taking a pill in the morning is an easy attempt at keeping the depression in remission, but I also know that drastic changes towards a healthy life makes the depression fade away and not come back. If those meds disappeared tomorrow I still wont be depressed. I pulling for you. love eternal I don't intend to make light of the challenges, burdens and responsibilities of motherhood but I could not help being reminded of the Rolling Stone's 1966 hit, "Mother's Little Helper." The lyrics include,
I have no issues if someone takes psych drugs, and is being treated correctly. There just isn't a pill to solve everything. Some doctors act as if there is, and are more than happy to whip out a prescribing pad if you simply ask about a medication. Posted by: Lee at August 29, 2009 08:36 AMI think we've crossed the Rubicon when we start seeing psychiatric drug abuse cross into the recreational realm, becoming the unquestioned subject of mainstream media lifestyle columns. I would not be at all surprised to see a future TV Made Men-esque sit-com celebrating the trials and wacky tribulations of the medicated mom or bipolar bob.... Posted by: The Skeptic at August 29, 2009 09:39 AMTad, I stand corrected, I tried MANY alternative treatments. My brother who is severally bipolar also tried many different things (hippie parents, which I am forever grateful), despite all our efforts, he consistently ended up in the hospital multiple times every year. He now takes Lithium and a few other things, sees a therapist twice a week who is AMAZING, and is doing alot better these days. I was never intending to say that "taking a pill in the morning" is a cure for depression. Of course it isn't, and I have never believed that. I have always believed that first and foremost, that a healthy lifestyle should be at the forefront of any treatment of depression. However, I also firmly believe that medication was invaluable in coming back from my last depressive episode, and don't plan on going off them anytime soon. I have been as anti-drug as anyone in the past, but I suppose that for me (I can't speak for anyone else), they helped me out a lot. Also, I would have to disagree with you Sally when you say that: "thus when under the influence of ssri's you become more dangerous than someone who is drunk or high on another drug that is better understood and safer." I'm pretty sure my dad was never on an SSRI, was a horrible drunk, and used to treat my family like shit. I'm also pretty sure that there is a strong case that alcohol causes a good number of deaths. I take medication, but I can't for the world tell I am taking anything. I don't feel drugged up, or artificially happy. I just feel even, when I'm living that healthy lifestyle along with it. Just kind of seems like a ridiculous statement to make. Posted by: Lindsey at August 29, 2009 07:21 PMi am very concerned about overmedication. i have been suspicious of my mother and her prescription drug use. she seems to have valid prescriptions, most from the same docter and same pharmacy, but her cabinet has valium, ambiem, lunesta, vicodin, lexapro, fuerenol, and all kinds of cold meds. she seems to always be taking pseudophedrine, and she never seems to have a stuffy nose. i have had a hard time confronting her about it, she's very defense and just says that her docter knows what she's on and that she doesn't take all of them all the time. i woory so much because she doesn't eat very much. i feel like so many of her "problems" with focus, depression, anxiety, and sleep would be easily solved with a healthier lifestyle - wholesome nutritious food, exercise, and social and mental stimulation. instead, it seems she is just fine with popping a pill. she's had a brain injury for a long time, and when she's clumsy or slurring her speech or forgetful, she blames it on the stroke but i just know in my heart that it is really all those chemicals floating around in her body - with no food to serve as a buffer. overmedication is a serious problem, and docters are definitely part of it. i used to have the same docter as my mom, i got someone else because i never felt like she listened to me. i wonder if this is what goes on during my mother's appointments; if the docter just half-assed listens and then writes a 'scrip. i'm so frustrated. Posted by: miss_E at August 29, 2009 08:32 PMLindsey, Sounds like your dad was a troubled man who drank alcohol. Alcohol certainly is not known for making bad people good, still, it is a widely understood drug. SSRI's are not widely understood. Again, to me, psych drugs are like birth control pills, they don't treat a disease but certainly are things that can be useful. Pregnancy is not a disease but that doesn't mean it's wrong to want to control the amount of children one has. Uncomfortable feelings are not abnormal or diseased but that doesn't mean one should be prohibited from taking drugs to make one comfortable, but remember, comfort is not the same as behavioral improvement. I would suspect that your father drank because he was cruel to his family, not that he was cruel to his family because he drank. Had he stopped drinking, he might have found he had to change his bad behavior towards his family to live with himself, but because he drank he might not have been aware of it. The woman in this piece seems to have a nagging fear that she's a bad parent though it's not obvious from the piece that she is. Taking drugs won't make her stop yelling at her kids, it will just make her stop feeling guilty for yelling at her goods. Are you really certain this is a good thing? Posted by: Sally at August 30, 2009 05:46 AMTad, I think you nailed the issue in saying: "There are ways to get off these meds. The problem is that makes us responsible for our feelings... I know taking a pill in the morning is an easy attempt at keeping the depression in remission, but I also know that drastic changes towards a healthy life makes the depression fade away and not come back...." I am one of those depressed persons who was on SSRIs (among other things), and finally said enough is enough. I made those "drastic" lifestyle changes, and I've been a stable, happy drug free 'depressive' ever since. The problem is, the non-drug approach requires a lot of hard work and dedication, much more work required than chemically recreating 'happiness' via meds. And you are so right in saying that once drug-free, one is forced to confront one's moods and take responsibility for them. It's not easy, but if you stick with it, the benefits will come. I think meds have some role to play for a small minority of the hardest core mental health cases, and even outside that I take a 100% pro-choice stance. To each their own. It's just too bad the psychiatric and medical establishment doesn't encourage or allow an informed, critical choice among patients. The non-drug approach becomes all the more difficult in the face of a health sector that offers little support for this route. My doctor almost threw my entire case file in the trash when I told him, "no more drugs, doc." He threatened me, scolded my like a naughty school child but eventually relented. I had to do all the subsequent work on my own. I don't want the point of the above article to be lost in all this: the abuse and misuse of pharma drugs has reached epidemic rates, so much so that it's becoming the accepted norm within pop culture, the stuff of casual, lifestyle columns. Troubling. Lindsey, I hear your points. I've been where you are. I think SSRIs can serve as a bridge from utter hopelessness to a more healthy lifestyle, but it's gonna require a lot of hard work and long-term dedication to cross that bridge, and you're likely going to be doing it against the advice of your medical advisers. Good luck.
Could it be that Miley and Hannah are a cause of domestic mental health problems? If so, is the solution to get rid of the TV? :P Posted by: Lilly NC at August 30, 2009 04:04 PMSkeptic- that's what gets me so much about psychiatrists. They want to be treated like other doctors, but they don't ACT like other doctors. Look, if you're treating a medical problem that is supposedly "just like cancer or diabetes" (which is baloney but anyway), then please do me a favor, and skip the lectures. I swear I have PTSD from it- I went in to tell my neurologist I wasn't going to take a nerve medicine he recommended because I didn't think it helped, and he shrugged his shoulders and said, "Oh well, then why bother taking it?" I was completely shocked at his reaction- obviously, I'd spent too much time around my psychiatrist. Posted by: kimbriel at August 30, 2009 07:54 PMWow- as a relatively new mom (my daughter is almost 5) who is older (mid-40s) and living with an unmedicated man with ADD I have frequently considered that SOMEONE in my household should be medicated. I also work in the pharma industry and am somewhat med-avoidant, be they OTC or prescription, so the desperation that I feel that leads me to believe that someone should be on drugs is rather intense. It's obviously a desperation shared by so many other moms. It was never a problem for me before becoming a mom, and since I waited so long to procreate, I had a fair number of years of living as a non-depressed, non-stressed out "sane" person. Which leads me to believe there must be some trigger- whether biochemical, social or the combo of both, I dunno, after women have the added burden of children in their lives. I watched my own mother struggle with depression for years. She coped by locking herself in the bedroom whenever she was not alone in the house. But had it been a decade or so later, she probably would be one of the prozac nation.
No real answers, but glad that the conversation is continuing. Are these same mothers preaching the "Just Say No" line about drug use to their kids? Fat chance their kids will listen after watching mom take a pill in attempt to alter every mood change and behavioral experience under the sun. People do not have it worse today than they did 50 years ago. Far from it. It was better 50 years ago when people had to work harder at everything in life and had less time to sit around gauging their every response to life's trials and tribulations in order to fit them into some type of mental disorder. Posted by: Evelyn Pringle at August 31, 2009 09:36 AMMichele, I didn't have kids because I knew from the time I was a teenager that I am a sprinter, not a marathoner. Parenting is a marathon activity. I'm only good for a few hurdles. I keep thinking of the picture of your mother. I can so relate to that. I find having people around a lot very stressful. I need a LOT of time alone to stay in balance. At the moment I work part time and my sweetie works full time. It should be interesting when he retires. Fortunately, we've done a lot of work on learning to say "I need about X minutes/hours alone now." He came from a family where everyone was joined at the hip so being alone was a foreign concept for him when we first married. Posted by: Sherry at August 31, 2009 11:40 AMI am a therapist. I personally have a book full of diagnoses, and find that SSRI's are very helpful to me on a cyclical basis. What is at least as helpful and more stabilising are lifestyle commitments - food, sleep and fun. I have been reared in the biochemical model, and I need to know more about factual bases for rejecting it - do not food, sleep, excercise, fun, etc., change the body responses? Are our bodies and minds separate - I think not...I consistently employ mindfulness as my major self regulator and teach it to anyone who will stay for a moment. And when something beyond me happens, I employ the SSRI till I feel I can cope alone. A childhood of stress may be my achilles tendon (does anyone here know about the neurological effects of stress in childhood - the Aces studies?) I guess I am defending biochemical as an approach, but willing to be dissuaded if the facts can be found. Posted by: Karla at September 14, 2009 03:13 AMPost a comment
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