June 08, 2009Seroquel, Geodon Tied To Death Of 3-Year-Old "Bipolar Child" In KansasThis article in the Topeka Capital-Journal and what it describes are disgusting, so I'll summarize: parents named tk and tk have a young 3-year-old daughter in Council Grove, Kansas, named Destiny. The parents are former drug addicts and both are diagnosed with bipolar disorder. The girl begins experiencing mood swings, bangs her head against a wall, tries suffocating a dog and so on. The parents take Destiny to a counselor, who presses them to take their daughter to a psychiatrist. The parents do as instructed, taking their daughter to a 70-something psych doc who prescribes both Seroquel and Geodon to control Destiny, who weighs 37 pounds. The article doesn't specify what diagnosis the child was given, but based upon the meds we're in bipolar child country here. Eventually, the doctor ups the Seroquel dosage to 600 mgs. a day--yes, in a 3-year-old, 37 pound girl--and that's the high end of adult dosages of the drug. At some point in 2006, Destiny's parents became uncomfortable with the dosage of drugs their daughter was getting and scheduled an appointment to get her weaned off meds. About that time, Destiny begins complaining of a stomachache, and when the pain gets too intense her parents take her to a small hospital. Destiny is diagnosed with a blocked colon and needs emergency surgery, which never gets performed because a doctor at the hospital wants to handle things there. By the time, she's transported to Kansas City, it's already too late. Destiny dies from fecal impactation. The article identifies a blocked colon as a known side effect of Seroquel and Geodon. I was not able to find it identified in the Seroquel PI, but it is a known side effect of some of the atypical antipsychotics. See this 2002 case study of colon blockage and fecal impactation in Australian patients taking Clozaril. While there could possibly be other causes of fecal impactation, in a 3-year-old you'd have to look at the meds she was taking, especially Serqoquel in an extremely high dose for a small child. An autopsy found she had antipsychotics in her in "concentrations considered therapeutic in adults." Her parents sued the doctors and hospital, but in late-2008 the lawyers handling their case walked away, likely due to the parents' drug-using past (it never goes over well with juries). Meanwhile, the State of Kansas investigates the psychiatrist and finds that he violated state laws in treating Destiny and a few other children. I don't know what to say beyond the bare facts above, except to note that I am tired of this bipolar child crap. It's killing kids and that ain't right. Rebecca Riley and Destiny Hager and I'm sure there are more out there. Posted by Philip Dawdy at June 8, 2009 12:01 AM
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"doctor ups the Seroquel dosage to 600 mgs. a day--yes, in a 3-year-old, 37 pound girl" This is not medicine, just murder. This so called doctor should be --------- Posted by: unbelievable at June 8, 2009 06:36 AMThis story, is so alarming, it breaks my heart. Posted by: Stephany at June 8, 2009 07:35 AMLithium is associated with ileus, where the small intestine shuts down. It is life-threatening. It is supposed to be very rare. Few know about it. I had it twice. The first time, I just kept taking things for constipation which do not work. If you see a doc, they just think you are crazy, and tell you to go home. Of course, I was taking lots of other drugs at the time too (Seroquel, Lamictal, Ativan, maybe Depakote, who remembers) so maybe it was the combination. I had to figure it out myself (like everything else) because of the basic denial in psychiatry. Of course, I am not sure if this is what this child had, but it is possible. Posted by: Eileen at June 8, 2009 08:50 AMExtremely sad. And as noted in other comments - the docs can get away with this stuff because you can always blame the patient. Including when you are wrong, and you hurt someone thru poor care - you simply claim that oh it is so difficult to treat these pts since mental illness symptoms are hard to tell from physical symptoms or - yes, dare we say it - malingering - wink, nod. Here, the doc can also pin blame on the parents. The one thing that is for sure: any doc involved got his or her money, and the drug company made their money. Who knows what kind of wonderful life that girl might have had if we were taking these children seriously, instead of just trying to use pharmaceuticals to get them to shut up. Same sad story with the cough medicine. Simply used to make kids shut up because we think we are entitled to our glorious lives of pleasure. Posted by: MedsVsTherapy at June 8, 2009 12:51 PMI'm beyond words. Not a single physician has determined this child's death to be from Seroquel or Geodon. And yet the witch hunt is on for the doctor who prescribed them. Philip Dawdy responds: you may want to go reread the linked article. an autopsy id'd the antipsychotics in relation to the fecal impactation. Posted by: David Smallwood at June 8, 2009 05:40 PMHeartbreaking Posted by: Lisa at June 8, 2009 05:42 PMDavid Smallwood you are a complete twit, and a defender of worst this world has to offer. Have you renewed your Biederman fan club membership yet? FACT: a grown adult would be knocked into a stupor on 600mg of seroquel; let alone adding geodon into the mix for complete brain numbing and total sedation. For a small child this is nothing short of out and out torture. I have to imagine you would call this therapeutic and a treatment also. Or are you just going to blame the parents this time too? You should apply for a job at the FDA; Big Pharma is always looking for another whipping boy to push around, while looking for the next child to kill with their latest money maker poison. Posted by: Witch Hunt at June 8, 2009 09:14 PMI'll just repost what I posted at the Kansas article: "I cannot believe this story. And once AGAIN the psychiatrist gets away with literal murder, where the parents' histories are scrutinized. 600 mg of Seroquel??? HTF is that a reasonable standard of care for a 3 year old child? Seroquel is practically an elephant tranquilizer and 600 mg is AN ADULT LEVEL DOSE. This stuff is not even LEGAL in EUROPE. And yet the parents are blamed. I will never understand what leads some parents to blindly follow someone with an MD in Psychiatry, but HE/SHE had the responsibility here. And HE/SHE needs to have their license pulled. This is even worse than the Rebecca Riley case, as there is NO DOUBT they were following the psych's instructions to the letter. To read more, go here: http://www.psychcrime.org/articles/Suit_Proceed_Against_Psychiatrist_Pre... Parents, PLEASE do a lot of research BEFORE you decide to medicate your children with psychotropic drugs. Psychiatry is not as scientific as it purports itself to be-- and these drugs are dangerous." F**{)@Q{WR* there are no words to describe how pissed I am about this. Posted by: kimbriel at June 8, 2009 09:57 PMI have to agree with Witch Hunt here. Um, hello, since WHEN is 600mg of SEROQUEL a REASONABLE STANDARD OF CARE for a 3 YEAR OLD????? And if you think it's reasonable, I hope to god you don't practice psychiatry. And if it WOULD be considered reasonable, we have serious problems in the field of psychiatry. Posted by: kimbriel at June 8, 2009 10:01 PMCalling calling other posters here "twits," Witch Hunt, is rather uncalled for. And also ... Philip Dawdy responds: you may want to go reread the linked article. an autopsy id'd the antipsychotics in relation to the fecal impactation." I'd suggest you rereading the article. It states "... followed autopsy confirmation that Destiny died of fecal impaction and had “antipsychotic drugs present in concentrations considered therapeutic in adults.” It doesn't say the antipsychotic drugs caused the fecal impact. The autopsy results do not make a cause and effect statement, just a statement of facts. Big difference. Posted by: David Smallwood at June 9, 2009 03:38 AMThe article clearly states which doctor prescribed the drugs and there were other children harmed by this doctor as well. I suggest reading the original article for the facts "David Smallwood". This is a reckless endangerment of a child, disregard for human life and quite frankly, this doctor killed this child by giving Destiny lethal doses of highly toxic chemicals not proven to be safe in children her age AT ALL. There ARE NO reasonable doses, and any other doctor quoted in the article that believes in that treatment is a complete quack! My GOD how anyone can promote the drugging of kids is beyond belief. How did this get this far? Since when do we, as a society just sit back and watch the approval of drugs such as Seroquel for use in children? Why is the FDA approving Seroquel right and left while the company is in litigation for body damages the drug inflicts? It is our moral obligation to warn people about Seroquel being an antipsychotic and the people who have taken/used it need to continue to speak out for the benefit of children. There is so much emphasis placed on kids being overweight, school lunches being trimmed of fats, fast food chains having to display calories...hell giving the kids Happy Meals is far safer than these drugs, and yet look how they are being dosed out! I hoped Rebecca Riley age 4 dead would be an eye opener for this outrage to stop and now Destiny is proof that drug companies are lethal profit makers at the cost of human lives. It's all about money and no one seems to get that. Posted by: Stephany at June 9, 2009 06:24 AMGod bless the children. That's all I can say right now after reading this. And to hell with these so called "doctors". Posted by: Isabell Gratings at June 9, 2009 11:15 PMI suggest reading the original article for the facts ... Hmm ... I've done so, Stephany, and more than a few times, and nowhere in the article does it state the medications caused her death I think we're just getting played by the author. You know, getting us to think with our hearts rather than our heads. That's just my take on it. Of course, every one can draw their own conclusions. Fair enough. We're all entitled that way. Posted by: David Smallwood at June 10, 2009 06:00 AMDavid Smallwood, no author anywhere has played me, I have witnessed the first hand suffering of my daughter on these meds and it is my duty as a parent to warn parents of an outcome less than best: DEAD children or like mine: DISABLED by age 21. Did you read about Rebecca Riley? the meds caused her death, and she was 4 years old. If the Destiny story doesn't seem to prove enough for you fact wise, I suggest watching the PBS (available online for viewing)documentary "The Medicated Child". Whether or not you believe the medications killed Destiny or not, the fact remains that these drugs have not had long term trials done for safety and efficacy for children and most importantly per this story for children at age 3. As you stated, we are all entitled to our own opinions, and yes mine is based on a heartbreaking story which I wish was not my own daughter's. http://bipolarsoupkitchen-stephany.blogspot.com/2009/06/fda-psychopharmacologic-drugs-advisory.html Posted by: Stephany at June 10, 2009 11:43 AMAlliance for Human Research Protection http://www.ahrp.org/cms/content/view/605/9/ X-ray revealed the child's colon was blocked - a known side effect of Seroquel and Geodon An autopsy confirmed that the child died of fecal impaction and had "antipsychotic drugs present in concentrations considered therapeutic in adults." Destiny Hager weighed 38 lbs. This week, on June 9-10, an FDA advisory panel will be considering applications for expanded approval of highly toxic antipsychotics for use in children aged 10 to 17. The drugs under consideration are: Seroquel (AstraZeneca), Zyprexa (Eli Lilly) and Geodon (Pfizer). Rather than focus on protecting children's safety, FDA officials are doing their utmost to legitimize irresponsible, off-label prescribing of exceedingly toxic antipsychotics for children--thereby ensuring that far greater numbers of children will be victimized and die. Posted by: kids entitled to protection at June 10, 2009 12:03 PMI have taken this medication before. It is certainly not suitable for a 4 year old. Posted by: sportsbook review at June 30, 2009 02:52 PMI am her mother and let me reassure you that "her parents" were clean and sober at the time of her death. WE had not been using for quite some time. Yes, I am still a RECOVERING drug addict. None the less, my child is dead. The awareness I wanted to bring must have a done a great job. I am not offended by this article Mr.Smallwood, but in fact just wanted to correct some of your statements. Thank you all for your concern. Posted by: Angela Hager at July 14, 2009 09:01 AMAngela, I'm very sorry about the death of your little daughter, and thank you for bringing her story to attention for others to learn from, considering psych med use in children. Posted by: Stephany at July 29, 2009 09:40 AMI was never so emotionally torn apart when I watched PBS program Medicated Child. I'm a 50 yr Post a comment
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