Thank you Philip.
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"You don't understand psychopathic murder by slicing [Jeffrey] Dahmer's brain, and you won't get E=MC2 by slicing Einstein's brain," he says. "Unfortunately, it's in the mind. And the mind is not a structure. It is an ephemeral concept.""

He died at the age of 91 and his health was poor. I believe it's what once was called "natural causes".
It's amazing that even if a person is 101 years there is always a medical condition.
Perhaps they forgot to tell us that immortality has already been achieved.
I'm, of course, out of this list.
A life well lived.
I would like to know if Hot Lines are already prepare to deal with DRUG-INDUCED suicidal ideation.
I don't think that people who are suffering it call anybody.
The drug-induced suicide ideation is very powerful, it's amazing how, according to my experience, reason tells you to call someone but you simply don't.

I believe that denying drug-induce suicide ideation with all the data available is a crime.
Yes, a crime.

Camus died very young in a car accident.
William Styron at his brilliant "Darkness Visible" claims that in a way it was a kind of suicide.
But this is another story and too controversial.
I just wanted to stress the differences.
R.I.P. Edwin S. Shneidman
I had one of his book and he tells the story of a woman who was suffering the hell. One day she wakes up and took her breakfast in peace. She committed suicide.
He wrote a wonderful piece about this case.
I lost the book...

Crap. I was fortunate enough to hear the man speak and have all his books he wrote with Farberow.

He really did save lives. May he rest in peace.

Thank you Philip for covering this.

People commit suicide, when they believe that they have no other choice, and sometimes because they believe that others would either that they died, their only other purpose being to stick around so that they can be persecuted. As far as I can tell, that is, having only myself on whom to model that theory.

A shame, really, because there are always other choices, as I discovered. Revenge, for example, although that's best supplanted by something more productive, quite swiftly.

Matt

Edwin Shneidman had a long write-up back in 2004. This is the way it appears [in part] on SSRI Stories.

http://ssristories.com/show.php?item=2798

Fifth & sixth paragraphs from the end read: "Two years before his death, Arthur had been taking Effexor. Later, it was Prozac, and a year before his death, Wellbutrin , Effexor again, Eskalith and Celexa. 'I have gone through literally countless years of therapy & now over 2 years of antidepressant medications,' he wrote. 'Why is it that I should believe that one day I will be `happy.' "

"Yet it is a regimen that is widely accepted."
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Mapping the road to suicide
Seattle Times, The (WA) - June 14, 2004
Author: Thomas Curwen: Los Angeles Times

Health

Edwin Shneidman made a career of studying suicide and is largely credited with putting the problem before the public. Today, however, his philosophical approach has been eclipsed by scientific advances in developing treatments for mental illness.

LOS ANGELES ­ Edwin Shneidman is an old man, and death is often on his mind. But then, it always has been. Only now it's personal, and like many people of his age, Shneidman is not ready.

"Am I afraid?" he asks. "No. But our language is insufficient. `Afraid' is not the right word. It is more `rueful,' but even that is too vague."

Death has been his companion because Shneidman has stood at the forefront of suicide studies in the United States for more than 50 years. He is not ready to step aside, even though he is 86 and slowed by cancer and diabetes. He admits surprise, however, when he wakes up in the morning, and in idle moments pens his own obituary: "Noted thanatologist dies." He laughs at the irony. Much better, he says, than "Noted suicidologist commits suicide."