May 05, 2009Newsweek Profiles Icarus Project, "Mad Pride"This week's Newsweek had a good article on The Icarus Project and Will Hall, a leader of the group, and what's called "Mad Pride." "I met Hall one night at the offices of the Icarus Project in Manhattan. He became a leader of the group—-a 'mad pride' collective-—in 2005 as a way to promote the idea that mental-health diagnoses like bipolar disorder are 'dangerous gifts' rather than illnesses. While we talked, members of the group—Icaristas, as they call themselves—scurried around in the purple-painted office, collating mad-pride fliers. Hall explained how the medical establishment has for too long relied heavily on medication and repression of behavior of those deemed 'not normal.' Icarus and groups like it are challenging the science that psychiatry says is on its side. Hall believes that psychiatrists are prone to making arbitrary distinctions between 'crazy' and 'healthy,' and to using medication as tranquilizers. It cannot breakdown fast enough for my taste. Anyway, the article--wherein someone from the Treatment Advocacy Center defends meds and Peter Kramer says psychotic depression is a disease (good work, Kramer; pick out the rarest of depressions to defend a crumbling paradigm)--is worth a read. BTW, the article kind of parallels a piece on Icarus and Liz Spikol in the New York Times last year, which also included a quote from TAC's annoying Fuller Torrey. Interesting how the East Coast media fails to recognize the work others are doing on these issues in other parts of the US. That's not to take away from Icarus. Just making a point about the geographical impairment of some of my colleagues in the media. Posted by Philip Dawdy at May 5, 2009 12:05 AM
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Thanks you for this article, Philip. If nothing else, some people might become aware of the dangers of taking Prozac or another SSRI. It certainly ruined Will Hall's life for many years. From SSRI Stories, here is a tragedy of one man who now sits in prison. Even more tragic are the victims he created with his Prozac mania. http://ssristories.com/show.php?item=248 Stephen Leith 239190 Jane Henney, M.D., Commissioner Food and Drug Administration Dear Dr. Henney: I am writing to tell you what PROZAC did to me and to urge you to take it off the market. In the years prior to 1992, I became depressed as I watched my wife slowly die of cancer. In January of 1992, I sought psychiatric help and was immediately prescribed PROZAC. After about 2 weeks it kicked in, and I was full of energy, I felt as though I could accomplish anything I put my mind to and began a major project. People in the school where I taught knew something had happened to me: I ran everywhere, even in the school! The kids joked that I was "hitting the acid cabinet" in the back of my chemistry room, and the Superintendent, thinking I was on street drugs, called me into his office and demanded to know what was going on. I lost all discretion regarding what I said, even speaking to strangers about personal things. I became obnoxious and the students started fearing me, especially when I began touching some of them. I now lacked control. After about six weeks, I sprained my ankle and the good feeling turned bad. My sleep became increasingly more fitful and the depression returned. The psychiatrist suggested taking me off PROZAC, but I begged him to leave me on it, fearing that the depression would be much worse without it. I started seeing things moving out of the corner of my eye, and I was constantly jerking my head in the perceived direction to see what it was. There was nothing, of course, but I was fooled into looking anyway. I was constantly agitated. I became disillusioned, thinking people didn't like me and were out to get me. When I was reprimanded for my inappropriate behavior (which began after taking PROZAC), I was certain the administration was trying to fire me. I was becoming paranoid. I had gone deeply into debt, acquiring many things I did not need after going on the drug, and now I was convinced they were out to take my job from me. QW-0585 cl Page 2 Page 3 Posted by: Rosie at May 5, 2009 07:05 AM I have a post about Mad Pride in UK saved as draft. "geographical impairment" that's a good one Posted by: Stephany at May 5, 2009 08:30 PMYou mean the only choice is between forced medication and no medication? That's just ridiculous. Mad Pride may say they are "pro-choice," but the Icaristas stigmatize medication as much as they claim society stigmatizes mental health diagnoses. Since I've started reading Philip, I've become a heckuva lot more cautious and skeptical about what medications I take and what advice I get from doctors. But that doesn't mean I want anyone trying to limit my options in treating my depression -- including people who claim to speak for me. Posted by: Larry at May 8, 2009 02:51 PMHi Larry, You said: "Mad Pride may say they are "pro-choice," but the Icaristas stigmatize medication as much as they claim society stigmatizes mental health diagnoses." Can you give an example or elaborate? I am serious as I have heard this complaint expressed in different ways. I am not looking for a fight as I truly want to understand. Posted by: AA at May 9, 2009 06:39 AMScatter (Icarus founder) uses psych medication. Posted by: flawedplan at May 9, 2009 11:11 AMI got the article the other day in the mail- with my weekly subscription. Working on a letter to the editor..... Still going through it, but kudos to whomever took the picture of Will Hall. It's really really good. Posted by: susan at May 10, 2009 06:14 AMThe Icarus Project is a diverse mix of people who take medications, people who don't take medications, and everything in between. For years we've been facilitating a multi-faceted dialog among all kinds of points of view outside of the narrow medical model of disorders, labels, and illness. Over the years we've gotten as many people saying we are too 'pro-meds' as we have saying we are too 'anti-meds.' The reality is that people's lives don't fit into black-or-white boxes, and it's easier to dismiss us as being on one side or the other than it is to listen to us. We're committed to informed choice about psych meds from a harm reduction perspective. There are risks involved with any medications and there are risks involved with taking a non-medication approach. Pharmaceutical companies and doctors haven't been honest about those risks, nor have they offered holistic alternatives for people to choose from. Take a look at the Icarus community and you'll find vibrant dialog and a unique space for respecting choice and individual mental diversity. -- Will Hall Posted by: Will Hall at May 12, 2009 09:33 AMI cannot believe prozac is still being prescribed.I believe the incarcerated fellow is telling the truth.Prozac made me crazy for two weeks straight-psychotic.It turned out I had an allergy to alot of chemicals including chemicals found in coffee,beer,bread,Midol and even chocolate.Its called CEREBRAL ALLERGIES.If I drink coffee I hallucinate.Can you imagine the power Prozac has on people with CEREBRAL ALLERGIES????Or how many innocent sufferers of this disease are being diagnosed as mentally ill?Or being given more chemicals on top of thier existing caffienne allergy while they continue to drink coffeee.Cerebral allergies swell the brain like schizophrenia.It also causes loss of stucture to the brain(mass)causing you to loose your ability to use you higher cognitive functions of the forebrain.Henceforth cerebral allergies can lead to what appears to be a permanent brain dysfunction.It is reversable since the brain can repair to some degree if the offending chemicals are taken away.In nature caffiene is a Pesticide!!!!!! Posted by: m at May 12, 2009 10:41 AMPost a comment
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