"...among depressed subjects who supplemented their antidepressant with Abilify, rather than with a placebo, 25.4% reported some relief of their symptoms. Among those taking a dummy pill with their antidepressant, 15.2%reported some improvement in their mental health."

OK, but this says Abilify comes to almost doubling the rate of improvement in symptoms compared to placebo.

That is actually impressive and not something to be dismissed.

I was on Abilify when I was a teenager. I got terrible akathisia from it. It was scary. One dya, all of a sudden, I couldn't stop moving. I would sit down, then stand up, pace around the room, jump up and down, start dancing, kick out my legs and arms. For weeks it l;asted. I couldn't sit still or sleep, it was terribler and terrifying and I had no clue what the heck was going on. I remember I missed some school and searched "Restless leg syndrome" while shaking and standing up while sitting, because I thought that was going on. Eventually, I was told it might be from the pill. Eventually, the akathisia went away after a couple weeks. I had to go to school when the akathisia went down and I remember it was awful. That was many, many years ago, but it was scary. It's fun to look back on in retrospect. You could say you haven't lived until you've experienced the torture of akathisia. It's unfair how no one else got to experience that. You begin to appreciate what it's like not to feel like crawling out of your skin when the akathisia is gone. For years, I didn't know what it was so I said and thought I had the "jitters" and felt "jittery and fidgety" and I described it like that for years and eyars until I saw the word akathisia. I was relieved that it could be captured in one word.

I hope that Philip will approve this comment, as my fingers were poised to make it on the ECT thread below when it was suggested the thread be closed. Please take exception and post this.

After reading every word carefully, I believe that was one of the most poetic, heartfelt, heartbreaking, and eloquent series of comments ever posted on furious seasons. Dissimilar to other ECT War threads, it demonstrated the anger, pleading, real-life emotion, and party line swirling around "psychiatric" treatment more clearly than I have ever seen here. One main reason for its compelling nature was that "we" were playing against a foil; a person who presented himself as a robot: d.-guller-the-all-knowing-condescending-sometimes-all-sneering-psychiatrist. Every psychiatrist-in-training (and in practice) should read that thread then look in the mirror and learn from it. Following that daily exercise, they should then ask themselves if this is the kind of life they really want to lead, say a mantra, medidate, go out into nature and, in the end, ....just say "no". For demonstrated in this eloquent thread is a profession that "just says no" to LIFE. Life in all its permutations, longings, beauty, flaws. Not the one example given of the one person in a thousand, or a million, who is in extremis and for whom extreme measures must be taken - the person given as an example by d.guller. It's all the rest of us, trying so clearly here to cry out for the inhumanity to end and the humanity to begin.

Philip, I beg you to at least self-publish the most incredible of the threads here and get them out THERE for all to see. We will pass the hat again for it. We want to live and be free, and we want this for all, including those trapped in a profession lacking in freedom and humanity, spirit, compassion, or love, either as "doctor" or as "patient."

Thank you for your consideration.