March 31, 2009

Proof Florida Docs Prescribed Antipsychotics Like Candy To Little Kids With ADHD

Seriously.

A fine article in the St. Petersburg Times the other day details how the State of Florida last year began requiring approval for doctors wishing to give antipsychotics to kids younger than 6 in the state's Medicaid program. The review process went through the state program and even though it usually approved most doctor requests to use the dangerous drugs on kids, many doctors decided against going through the process and treated the kids with something else.

As a result of the approval process, prescriptions of atypicals in this population decreased by 75 percent last year and 40 percent fewer doctors even wrote prescriptions for the drugs at all. Shall we say that quite a few docs were being indiscriminate in the use of these drugs?

As I reported here in 2007, many of the prescriptions of atypicals in the Florida Medicaid system were for kids with ADHD and here's the confirmation that that's what was going on:

"He [a reviewer of some approvals] understands doctors might want to use an atypical to sedate an uncontrollable child with ADHD, one of the most frequent diagnoses reported. But he rejects the request unless a recent evaluation shows the child is violently aggressive. Bengtson also wants proof the physician has first tried other medications with fewer side effects. And if the request is for an inappropriately high dosage, the answer is no.

"On the other hand, kids who are autistic and aggressive are routinely approved for Risperdal, even if they're younger than the FDA age guidelines. 'At least we have some safety data for autism,' Bengtson said."

Some small kids still get the drugs despite the review process, apparently because there are a small minority of cases where there use is merited.

You've got to wonder what would happen if this approval process were implemented in other states.

BTW, the paper's article notes that there were 23 infants under 1 year of age who were given antipsychotics in 2007. Last year, there were none.

Posted by Philip Dawdy at March 31, 2009 12:03 AM
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23 infants!?? Oh my God. This is worse than criminal, this is sick and twisted, I hate this world!

Posted by: Stephany at March 30, 2009 10:56 PM

What can we do to stop this?

Posted by: Lilly NC at March 31, 2009 01:09 AM

23 infants... Mindblowing for too many reasons.

Posted by: Will at March 31, 2009 05:17 AM

In relative terms the percentage killed by psychiatric medicine is low. The profits of selling drugs are high.
The demand to stop unwanted behaviour of-in children is high, the meds-drugs-chemicals do stop unwanted behaviour. The children can't complain and you know its "science" since a doctor prescribed the medicine.(sarcastic)
or the child is brainwashed into believing their brain is defective and needs medicine.

and this reminds me of the people responsible for the Holocaust.

Gustave Gilbert and Douglas M. Kelley interviewed the Nuremberg defendants.
Page 61 and 62 from “Becoming Evil” by James Waller.


Kelley ” We must also realize that such personalities exist in this country and that there are undoubtedly some individuals who would willingly climb over the corpses of one half of the people of the United States if, by doing so, they could be given control of the other half.”


“Gilbert maintained that the Nazis had cultivated a deviate personality type that lacked empathy and conscience. In his tellingly titled article ” The Mentality of SS Murderous Robots,” Gilbert described this new inhuman personality type as ” the unfeeling, mechanical executioner of orders for destruction no matter how horrible, who goes on and on with this ghastly work as though he were a mere machine made of electrical wiring and iron instead of a heart and mind, with no qualms of conscience or sympathy to restrain him once someone has pressed the button to put him into action with a command.

Posted by: mark p.s.2 at March 31, 2009 09:04 AM

Infants on atypicals?!?

W.....T.....F......

Posted by: David at March 31, 2009 09:30 AM

"Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain."
-1984,orwell

Posted by: Stephany at March 31, 2009 10:33 AM
23 infants!?? Oh my God. This is worse than criminal, this is sick and twisted, I hate this world!

It does sound pretty horrifying. But evidently, especially where there is autism and/or mental retardation, infants under 12 months old can sometimes become self-injurious. Granted, their capacity for self-injury is small compared to that of an adult. But what does one do for a child who's banging his head on a wall, or chewing the inside of his mouth or on his fingers? Severly autistic children aren't going to respond to the same things that would soothe your average child. These are rare cases, but they do happen. So what should the intervention be?

Posted by: lkhllywd at March 31, 2009 03:39 PM

Steph - Good line by Orwell. Maybe I'll use it on April 8. Though I had been imagining an imaginery front page story on what I WISH would happen with this whole horrible mess. Hand it out to the Adv. Com . and whoever else happens to be around then....."hot off the presses"...

Posted by: Anon. at March 31, 2009 06:11 PM

Nazis? 1984? Gee, it sure is a mystery why moderate people, who out number partisans about ten-thousand to one, are so disinclined to take you zealots seriously.

Posted by: UnderTheThresher at March 31, 2009 09:04 PM

The quote from 1984 is thought provoking isn't it?

Posted by: Stephany at April 1, 2009 01:45 AM

re:UnderTheThresher
The psychiatric drugging of children is EVIL , like the nazi's.
It is being done for money.

The children have no medical illness, nothing physically wrong with their brains.

The drugs-chemicals-meds are to change who the children are. In the old days it used to be physical punishment or threat of physical punishment to get children to behave.

Emotions are not diseases to be controlled by medications.

Posted by: mark p.s.2 at April 1, 2009 04:54 AM

Peace be with you

Nazis? 1984? Gee, it sure is a mystery why moderate people, who out number partisans about ten-thousand to one, are so disinclined to take you zealots seriously.

First, I find your theory that moderate people out number "partisans" 10,000 to 1 baseless. I feel you only wrote because it makes your point. The truth is most people agree with what you call "partisan." They don't pipe up, because they're a-political or scared.

Second the term zealot applies equally to both sides of this issue. Why should a grown person fight soooo hard to dope a child? If it is not zeal then I know not what else it could be.

Third, Anyone who studied and understands what the nazi psychiatrists did realize there is no difference between that and what we are witnessing today. Mark gave you a couple of leads for you to research it yourself. I would also suggest you read "The Nazi doctors: medical killing and the psychology of genocide," by Robert Jay Lifton.

"1984" was about Nazis with today's technology and seems important to the study of mass drugging of society.

love eternal
tad

Posted by: tad at April 1, 2009 05:48 PM

Sometimes it's really that simple, isn't it? I feel a little stupid for not thinking of this myself/earlier, though.

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