January 08, 2009

Apparently, I Am A Murderer

This comment came in today, in response to yesterday's post on the huge placebo response in kids in depression treatment trials. I should note the study I wrote about was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry, a peer-reviewed journal.

"You know, Phil. I wonder how many people are going to die because of this site. Think about it. Someone is going to die because of your need to be the center of things. And to you that would be OK because it still leaves you at the center of things."

The person who left this unapproved comment sometimes goes by the handle "A Believer." S/he doesn't leave valid email addresses, so there's no way I can write s/he and let him/her know s/he's been banned from this site.

Just thought I'd share.

Posted by Philip Dawdy at January 8, 2009 10:30 AM
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ridiculous ...

This site saves lives and brings awareness to the dangers of psychiatric drugs!

You're doing a great job Phil..

Keep it up :)

Posted by: truthman30 at January 8, 2009 11:19 AM

Yet someone may be saved due to your annotations as well,

Dan Abshear

Posted by: Dan at January 8, 2009 11:22 AM

Good riddance.

Posted by: Deborah at January 8, 2009 11:31 AM

There will always be extreme reactions to a site like this. Heck, people have an extreme reaction to sports.

Did it bother you? I am guessing it must have hit a button to have made you create a post about it. I hope you know that what that person said is coming from either a place of pure insanity or a pharma plant.

Either way it's not worth your attention.

Thank you for this great site.

Posted by: Andrew at January 8, 2009 11:34 AM

The information found here would be highly unlikely to either save or take a life. What you've got going is an interesting place to find questions, and some answers, but I can't imagine anyone making life altering decisions based solely on something they've read on a personal blog... or any blog. I've had similar comments left on my site, the people who leave them, much like yours, don't seem to have any grasp whatsoever on what the Internet is about.

Posted by: Gabriel... at January 8, 2009 12:34 PM

I just wish I had found this blog, or some of the informations here, back in 2001 when there was still time not to be addicted to drugs I never should have taken.

Posted by: Ana at January 8, 2009 02:13 PM

If you look at a possible motivational reason to post that kind of comment, it may be a reflection of the internal fear and guilt the commenter has in themselves.
Information that is truthful can only help. Fraudulent information helps the people who profit from lies.

Posted by: mark p.s.2 at January 8, 2009 02:34 PM

It's a stale and weak argument when people say that spreading negative information about psych meds might cause someone to refuse or reject treatment. Using that logic, the complete truth would always be buried, the public would not have information necessary to make an informed decision, and the pharmaceutical company and doctors could perpetually keep doling out their drugs.

But let's be realistic. Yes, some people who read about negative side effects or physical dependence may not take drugs that might have otherwise saved their lives. It could happen, it may have already happened, but what's the alternative? Not say anything bad when bad things exist?

By the other side of coin, however, there are many people who have died or been mutilated from taking the drugs who wouldn't have otherwise. The point is to allow people to make up their own minds and not have their decisions clouded by one-sided or incomplete information, or by outright lies.

When the American colonies were debating on whether to go to war with Britain, there were people said, "no, bad idea. People will get killed. It won't be worth it. Freedom isn't worth lives."

And to abolish slavery, same argument.

So honestly, yes, someone might choose to not take meds and eventually commit suicide from severe depression, but they'd have made their choice not to take the drugs based on the information available at the time, and their decision was possible because of informed consent and free will.

It would be little consolation that someone died free, or died when he or she could have been helped, but historically speaking, people have chosen to fight and die rather than live under oppression, injustice, tyranny. They were able to exercise their free will, and democracies have been formed with freedom of information and truth as their foundation, not lies and deception, nor exploitation and violations of human rights.

Anybody who believes the public doesn't have the right to know should check with history, and thank God if they live in a country that doesn't execute dissenters on the spot.

I guess that would make Philip one of the Phounding Phathers of modern medicine.

Posted by: Andy Alt at January 8, 2009 02:37 PM

Well, someone may die because of this site, but it won't be me dying from needing a liver transplant due to damage caused by one of the psych meds you've written about (I'll refrain from noting which one due to not wanting to get either of us sued again for libel). Thankfully, the research you've done got me off that med before any serious damage was done.

Posted by: Puckett at January 8, 2009 03:05 PM

You save lives, not take em.

Besides if you are a murderer- I'm a porn star.

Posted by: susan at January 8, 2009 03:08 PM

I wonder why A Believer is opposed to informed consent.

Posted by: Lisa at January 8, 2009 03:36 PM

Pharma hates it when they lose a sale, don't they?

Posted by: Lilly NC at January 8, 2009 04:32 PM

Dear Phillip,

You literally saved my sanity and quite possibly my life with this site;
I don’t know what I would have done if I had not found it while I was getting off of Lamictal, Cymbalta, Vyvanse and Lithium (prescribed at the same time).

There were numerous times during withdrawal that I thought I was losing my mind; I would come to this site and search for the symptoms I was going through and to my amazement, it wasn’t just me and I found answers.

My brain was not working very well and the only thing that made sense to me was reader’s experiences. Trying to read a drug label was like reading a foreign language (not that they provide much info anyway).

Initially, I tried to cut Lamictal from 200mg to 100mg. I learned on your site when I crawled to my computer after throwing up all night and barely being able to walk because of the “dizziness” (for lack of a better word to describe the horrific sensation), that abrupt withdrawal from Lamictal can cause seizures along with all of the things I was experiencing. I slowed my tapering.

I could go on with many other specific incidences when I have come here and it’s had a major impact on my life throughout this past year but I'll leave it at that and just say one more thing;

THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART TO YOU AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SHARED THIER EXPERIENCES HERE. FURIOUS SEASON’S HAS BEEN LIFE CHANGING.

Posted by: Becky at January 8, 2009 05:07 PM

"You, at the center of things" twice in a 50 word comment. Jealous much? And yes, it reeks of defensive guilt. What have you done wrong believer?

Posted by: flawedplan at January 8, 2009 05:22 PM

Ana said exactly what I feel. I truly believe if I had not taken the path of psych drugs (as recommended by doctors I trusted and in retrospect I now realize did NOT provide me with all the proper information) I would not have ended up having ECT and having my brain permanently damaged.

If I had found this site or had the information you provide I would have made different choices.

Do not let this fool get to you. You do an amazing job of providing more truth than any of big business cares to.

Posted by: SallyT at January 8, 2009 09:30 PM

Yes, with your criticism of antidepressants, you take away a depressed person's only hope for treatment. Oh, wait - there's talk therapy, with established treatment methods, widely available licensed practitioners, decades of great outcomes evidence, and none of those nasty side effects. Never mind.

Posted by: MedsVsTherapy at January 9, 2009 05:53 AM

MedsVsTherapy:

Just wondering what "decades of great outcomes evidence" you are referring to for psychotherapy?

Take care.

Posted by: dguller at January 9, 2009 09:48 AM

This site is a resource, and people who allow anything to influence them w/out thinking for themselves are stupid.

I've had hate mail like that; I spam it.

Posted by: Stephany at January 9, 2009 10:53 AM

Let's just stick that person in the new DSM with all the other phony baloney new conditions coming out that NEED PRESCRIPTIONS from Pharma. We could call the condition, um, PP. Pharma Plant. And we could decide which drugs to give. I vote for Zyprexa, 20 mg/day Or....that new injectable.

Posted by: Sorrowful at January 9, 2009 12:56 PM

...and, this site is the ONLY one that ever challenged the pediatric bipolar paradigm and the drugging of children. It was a relief to find it, and I've been here ever since!

Posted by: Stephany at January 9, 2009 02:46 PM

I think that is a ridiculous comment. Personally I suffer from bipolar type 1 and take medication but that does not mean that I don't believe there is corruption within the pharmaceutical industry. Your site provides consumers information that lets them make a more informed decision regardless of whether that person choses to take medication or doesn't take medication.

Posted by: Jo Ann at January 10, 2009 10:37 AM

What Stephany said. I've personally found both help and harm from meds. There is good reason to be skeptical of the motivations of the pharmaceutical companies, even if you choose to take meds. Furthermore I don't understand how discussing the results of a study makes anyone a murderer.

Posted by: Alison Bergblom Johnson at January 10, 2009 02:27 PM

Mr Dawdy, your anonymous interlocutor is cordially and respectfully invited to put up a site with even a fraction of a percentage of Furious Seasons' readability, usefulness, and HEART.

Cause that's what you got, HEART.

And Susan's comment made me snarf.

Posted by: Allegra at January 12, 2009 11:39 AM

Allegra,
"And Susan's comment made me snarf."
You too? I had tea coming out my nose.
Sherry

Posted by: Sherry at January 12, 2009 02:14 PM

Thank you Allegra and Sherry.

I had to look up :"snarf" in the Urban dictionary!

Since no one knows me- it's always been a fantasy of mine, ever since I turned down a Playboy posing.......which I do regret these days.

Dang it, I need a boyfriend! That's enough black mail on me for the year folks.

Peace.

Posted by: susan at January 12, 2009 06:34 PM

Oh my. Trust me, no one ever offered ME a Playboy session! I'm impressed. Good move to turn it down, though. The money would be long spent and the pix still out there, rattling around in the universe.

Posted by: Sherry at January 13, 2009 07:33 AM

I've been labelled a Scientologist, a 'winging' bastard [sp], accused of working for solicitors, writing for my own interests, a benefit cheat, a manager of a rock star, someone who makes money from selling poetry, a racist. I respond to all these accusations then am accused of 'playing the victim'


Seems to me that you have yourself your very own stalker Phil.


Bring your rabbit inside mate :-)


Fid

Posted by: Bob Fiddaman at January 13, 2009 08:06 AM

"A Believer" probably also "believes" that "Ignorance Is Bliss."

Posted by: Christine at January 13, 2009 08:32 AM
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