November 13, 2008

Impact Of Web Sites For The "Delusional" Examined

There's a semi-interesting article in today's New York Times on people, reportedly delusional, who've found aid and comfort via Internet groups that support their views of mind control and gang stalking. Having dealt with a few of these sorts over the years--they have a habit of showing up at newspaper offices and demanding that reporters investigate X or Y group that is following them--this strikes me as a rather benign activity, certainly no more harmful than some of the extreme political discussions or sci-fi discussions or role playing groups on the Net.

But some find cause for concern:

"Dr. Ralph Hoffman, a psychiatry professor at Yale who studies delusions, said a growing number of his research subjects have told him of visiting mind-control sites, and finding in them confirmation of their own experiences.

"'The views of these belief systems are like a shark that has to be constantly fed,' Dr. Hoffman said. 'If you don’t feed the delusion, sooner or later it will die out or diminish on its own accord. The key thing is that it needs to be repetitively reinforced.'"

OK, if that's the best the author can offer to support the "oh so scary" thesis, then we have nothing to fear at all. You have to wonder what prompted the article in the first place, as in is there a news hook here at all.

Vaughan Bell, a UK psychologist and author the Mind Hacks blog, offers:

"Dr. Bell and some other mental health professionals say that even if the users of such sites are psychotic, forging an online connection to others and being told — perhaps for the first time — 'you are not crazy' could actually have a positive effect on their illnesses.

"'We know, for example, that things like social support, all of these positive social aspects are very good for people’s mental illness,' Dr. Bell said. 'I wouldn’t say it’s entirely and completely positive, but it can be positive.'"

And:

"'These people lead quietly desperate lives,' said Dr. Jeffrey A. Lieberman, chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at Columbia University. 'And if they are reinforcing each other and pulling people toward something, if they are using the Internet and getting reinforcement, that’s good.'"

Anyway, an interesting slice of where the Net is taking our culture, even our more extreme elements.

It all sort of reminds me of this group of people who once pestered the hell out of newspaper I worked at. They were believers in "chemtrails," or the belief that the government was seeding the sky with chemicals to keep Americans under control. I couldn't deal with these folks at all but mentioned it to a colleague of mine who got one of the best features out of it that I've ever read. It's still good reading today. Enjoy.

Posted by Philip Dawdy at November 13, 2008 08:01 AM
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I'm a great believer in the Hearing Voices network which is a peer support network for people who hear voices and apparently it really works to help control "belligerent" voices and enables members to function at a high level in "normal" society. This internet stuff sounds like it could work in the same way but I imagine there's also some potential for exacerbating delusions too given the different directions internet communication can take.

Posted by: Sara at November 13, 2008 08:32 AM

"Paranoia is just knowing all the facts." Since 2003, there's been a "Paranoia Network" in the UK, working according to the principles of the "Hearing Voices Network". Personally, I think, the "delusions" are real enough. There certainly once was someone, who "followed", "surveilled" you, dictated you what to feel and think, saw right through you, reading your thoughts, etc. In your past. But it's rather unlikely, that it was the CIA, or something along those lines - although it probably was someone just as skilled a "spy", and as powerful in relation to you, as an organization like the CIA, or X or Y group, is in general. The unconscious speaks symbol-language. And most people live in their past. Especially if their past had a certain (traumatizing) impact on them. So, if you don't live with mom and dad anymore, no one else, but your internalized past is following you. If these web communities can help people figure that out, I'd say they're a blessing.

BTW: A friend recently told me about a "delusion" he has. He asked me, if I believed him. Well, I don't believe, anyone is secretly medicating him (as it is practically impossible, the way he thinks it happens), but I certainly do believe that someone once tried to heavily influence ("medicate") his mind: mom and dad - and subsequently the mh system. So I said "yes".

Posted by: Marian at November 13, 2008 05:40 PM

"All I see from this blog is bitterness and judgment and people who would rather place blame than take responsibility for their actions..."

Interesting. I find that the opposite is happening: when I try to take responsibility for my life, I am often denied the opportunity. Scrutinizing the information that I am given is one example of this...

Matt

Posted by: Matthew Holford at November 14, 2008 03:14 AM

"The extent of the community, Dr. Bell said, poses a paradox to the traditional way delusion is defined under the diagnostic guidelines of the American Psychiatric Association, which says that if a belief is held by a person’s “culture or subculture,” it is not a delusion. The exception accounts for rituals of religious faith, for example."

Sounds like all we need to do is band together and vouch for each other ;-)

Posted by: Hermes at November 16, 2008 10:04 PM
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