July 01, 2008

Schizophrenia, Violence, And Forced Treatment

There was an ironic intersection of various forces in the mental health world yesterday.

Fuller Torrey's Treatment Advocacy Center had a post trumpeting new forced treatment laws in Illinois, Louisiana and Idaho and the group made its usual argument that forced treatment for people with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder is a social good. "Progress" even. That's a dubious claim, since there are folks who are fully compliant with their meds who still go off and do crazy, regrettable things. In some cases, it's pretty clear that the meds may be intimately connected with the behavior and, of course, sometimes they aren't. The good folks at TAC will never be interested in having that sort of subtle conversation, however, because they are led by Fuller Torrey and he's a well-known "prophet." Or lying fearmonger, if you prefer.

Separately, Alaska attorney Jim Gottstein, who also heads the anti-forced treatment group Psych Rights, sent around an email letting people know that a very unique case he's working on in Alaska is marching forward in that state's supreme court (no link to offer). The basic story is that a man in that state is fighting the state's ability to force him to take antipsychotics in the state hospital and Gottstein has managed to stop the state for the time being from being able to force the man to take meds that the state cannot prove don't harm him. The court is going to hear more motions on this case soon. Like I said, this is a very unique case and you can read the various filings here.

Meanwhile, yet another paper from the unending CATIE study came out in the British Journal of Psychiatry yesterday. It examined the question of whether first or second generation antipsychotics work better at preventing violence occasionally associated with schizophrenia. I've not seen the full paper yet, so I can't get into how researchers measured "violence," but I can pass along the news that the new meds didn't outperform the old. I'll have more from the study when I see the entire paper.

Like I said, it's ironic that all of that popped up within hours of each other.

Posted by Philip Dawdy at July 1, 2008 12:01 AM
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Yep!
Same old, same old...
Fortunately there are those who knows what drugs do them much harm.
I was talking to a man who told me that when he was in the hospital there was a drug who made him feel terrible.
He complained but... guess what?
Nothing happened.
The drug was given to him at the same time. When the time approached he took 1 l. of soda and asked to dilute in water the drug claiming it was too bitter.
So he went to the bathroom and vomited it all.

Posted by: Ana at July 1, 2008 07:29 AM

... drug "who"? :o)
Sorry...

Posted by: Ana at July 1, 2008 07:31 AM

Jim Gottstein is a personal friend and hero of mine. Jim really understands the bullshit behind this notion of medicating to prevent violence.

If anybody's interested, they can go to www.breadnroses.ca and watch my recent own meltdown under my screen name BlueGrey. I was psychotic and begging for medication but turned away. Only those who don't want it get it, everybody else is turned away. All makes perfect sense in Bizarro World, anyway.

How many psychos are pushed to the absolute wall before they commit a crime? Andrew Goldstein was repeatedly turned away from psych wards (even though he sensed that was where he ought to be) before he pushed poor Kendra Webdale to her death. Indeed, afterwards he turned to the horrified crowd and said he had done what he could to finally get some psychiatric help.

What E. Fuller Torrey's agenda is I will never know. Poor Kendra, having her name used in vain like that. Absolutely disgraceful.

Posted by: Francesca Allan at July 1, 2008 05:03 PM

And this: lady in Boston psych ward waited for 24 hours for help, staff watched her die.
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/07/01/video_shows_woman_dying_on_brooklyn_hospital_floor/?rss_id=Boston.com+--+N

Posted by: Lilly NC at July 2, 2008 03:53 AM

Forced medication is like concentration camps and slavery, why are people like Fuller Torrey who continue to stigmitize mental illnesses praised?

Posted by: Princess at February 25, 2009 08:21 PM
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