June 13, 2008Mass. General Doesn't Get ItThe Boston Globe had an interesting blog item yesterday pointing to a statement issued by Mass. General. In it, Peter Slavin, president of MGH, and David Torchiana, chairman and CEO of Partners Health Care, which is connected with MGH, defend the Harvard child psychiatrists recently outed as having significant financial conflicts and, shall we say, financial reporting problems as "beloved and trusted by thousands of grateful children and families" and "pioneers in the field of child mental health." While you'd expect some kind of PR response similar to last year's defense of Biederman, et al., you have to wonder what the folks at Harvard don't get about the criticisms they are facing for their deep ties to pharmaceutical companies and their research. At a minimum, to try and toss off the defense that these relationships are well managed when there are epic discrepancies all over the place strikes me as the death cry of an institution or sheer naivete. Take your pick. From the Mass. General statement: "First, we want to state that MGH firmly believes that appropriate and closely managed collaborations between academia and industry are important in the ongoing quest to discover treatments, cures and preventions for diseases that afflict millions of people worldwide. The innovative work of scientists at institutions like the MGH provides the intellectual and scientific foundation for so many of the therapies that industry has developed, tested, manufactured and carried to the marketplace to benefit patients. Their hearts go out to them? Rigorous science? Sheesh. Posted by Philip Dawdy at June 13, 2008 12:20 PM
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I agree that is a sickening response; the spellbinding that continues with regard to the current paradigms in child (and adult) psychiatry seems to have no bounds. Posted by: Sara at June 13, 2008 12:54 PMThousands of grateful children? I suppose they have those thank you cards in their data base somewhere. Too bad they've missed a good PR opportunity by not disclosing those. It should read more like, 1000's of families harmed by a dominant paradigm fully based in the pharamceutical industry, and we plan on donating 3 million dollars to charity. Posted by: Stephany at June 13, 2008 01:06 PMTheir impressive body of academic work, backed up by significant data and rigorous science, has earned them reputations as international leaders in the understanding and treatment of serious pediatric psychiatric disorders. In other words: if they are preventing selling drugs to Americans children they will find a way to poison children around the world. These guys really believe they are untouchable. I certainly hope Senator Grassly stays on top off them. Posted by: Jane at June 13, 2008 01:31 PMMGH wrote: Erm. Fuck off. An impressive piece of intellectual work furthers academic (and presumably, in this case, clinical) understanding. And yet the fuckers are as clueless about how to treat mental illness as ever they were. What a bunch of charlatans. And the irony of it is that they get decorated for being clueless charlatans, too. Matt Posted by: Matthew Holford at June 13, 2008 04:08 PM"Perhaps most important, they are beloved and trusted by thousands of grateful children and families who have counted on them for treatment, counseling, help and hope." . And what about the thousands of ungrateful children and families who have died because these bastards have been pushing dangerous and lethal medications. Lets just forget those that have died and suffered other serious side effects of these medications that have been pushed to line pockets. How dare anyone judge these doctors because they have made millions killing people in the guise of helping them. Posted by: Jane at June 13, 2008 05:36 PMTheir "impressive body of work" has negatively impacted and wrongly labelled around a million children so far. I'm afraid to ask why this bp in children hasn't made it over the border to Mexico or Canada or surely they will go there next, on the Pharma payroll. I found Harvard's statement unbelievable - actually I can't imagine Harvard's heart going out to anybody because I don't think Harvard has a heart. Posted by: Sorrowful at June 13, 2008 07:11 PMI'm thinking of something along the lines of the theory of prior commitment: if they distance themselves from these doctors for their unbelievably sketchy behavior, they have to question the fact that they went along with it for so long, putting blame on themselves. That's hard for a lot of people who can't take responsibility for their own involvement at whatever level. Rather childish, really. "Grateful children and families" - what, the parents that have the nagging suspicion that they've done irreparable damage to their own children, or the children that think they have something inherently wrong with them from a young age? I can't even fathom how a kid in grade school grapples with everyone they trust telling them they're ill or crazy or screwed up in some way... It is unthinkable that there hasn't been a wide uprising against this kind of "help". Your kid doesn't sit still long enough for you to watch American Idol? Oh, we can dope him up until he's catatonic, enjoy! There, I ranted. Posted by: Jordan at June 13, 2008 08:58 PMWe always come back to the same problem, the subjective nature of "bipolar disorder." If you believe it exists,then the person who "has" it is more of a danger to society than a value and if the treatment kills them a little quicker society is better off. That's why folks who believe in the disorder from label givers to label accepters never really do anything about this sort of research, they don't care, sort of like if the Catholic Church did a study to see if holy water cured demon possession and it turned out the study was sponsored by a maker of bogus holy water that stood to profit unimaginably financially if the church found that it's water cured demon possession and it came out that the priests involved in the study received huge under the table payments to "find" that the water worked, i.e. cured demon possession. Those who believe in demon possession would buy the water no matter how much proof there was it didn't work and it would never work because there's no such thing as demon possession and it's impossible to cure something that never existed in the first place.
"...Your kid doesn't sit still long enough for you to watch American Idol? Oh, we can dope him up until he's catatonic, enjoy! There, I ranted." Yes: God forbid that one's children should rebel against ignored, or treated like halfwits and deviants. Children are little geniuses, unless we treat them as if they can teach us nothing, and have to be instructed in all the ways of our world. What's so special about the adult world, that we would want limit genius, in that way? Matt Posted by: Matthew Holford at June 14, 2008 06:40 AMI have today stumbled upon a rare find in my internet travels in regards to psychiatry.... None of you will regret giving this a read. I just HAD to stop by and tell you about my find. I put it here in this blog post because it was the most recent, I don't really have anything to say about the post apart from the usual, ok here I go... Biopsychiatric ideologues have an ill gotten monopoly on human distress backed by two blank checks... The blank check of corporate pharma and the blank check that your body and our children's bodies must cash. The new film 'Generation Rx' is coming out soon please youtube search it. Back to my link, which is very interesting.... http://www.metzelf.info/articles/index.html Posted by: Poe at June 14, 2008 08:56 AMI live in NH, on the doorstep of Mighty Harvard. This response is *exactly* what I expected. You're dealing with a bastion of our society's wealthiest and most powerful forces, so why expect different? In the end, the personal really is the political and as most of us here know, the mental "health" profession is one of the biggest enforcers of the socio-economic status quo. Besides, Harvard will never admit to making a mistake. They're above all that, doncha know. well said, Sherry. Posted by: jenna at June 15, 2008 04:09 PMStan just made a post that I believe you all should see: "Is Something Not Quite Right With Stan"-we all belong as just one voice, and are part of one voice. Posted by: Stephany at June 15, 2008 09:41 PMPost a comment
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