May 27, 2008Prozac Over The Counter? Oh, Hell No!You know those "let's do a thought experiment" features that run in some mags and newspapers? There's an interesting one on Time's website this week and I suppose it made its way to the print edition as well. Does anyone read print editions anymore? The question: "Should antidepressants ever be sold over the counter?" The fact that such a question is even being asked in such a way tells you a lot about where America is as a culture. Time isn't exactly an out-there publication posing questions that have little connection to day-to-day America. Their charge is to be thoroughly in touch with what's under the skin of the mainstream. So the question spooks me. Answering the query is Josephine Johnston, associate for law and bioethics at the Hastings Center. I was intrigued by some of her answer: "The trouble, I guess, is there's a lot of concern that if you start providing needed medicine to clinically depressed individuals over the counter, it will pretty quickly become a drug that's used much more like alcohol or some other kind of what we might call recreational drugs." And discouraged by her apparent ignorance of what's up with anti-depressants: "But if you take the libertarian argument, 'Why shouldn't people be free to treat their own problems?' then there is no good argument against it. Antidepressants are not that dangerous." Not that dangerous? OK, how about risky and dangerous for some? "Overall I can sort of see both sides, but, in the end, it's hard for me to go completely with free choice. I think the interesting thing about this thought experiment is that it doesn't feel very far-fetched. While you can't buy antidepressants over the counter now, it's pretty easy to get a prescription from your doctor." No, I suppose none of this is very far-fetched at all. Regardless of what you make of anti-depressants and how to treat depression, the larger question to me is, "Would you make a drug available over the counter that's not particularly effective for most people and which some people kill themselves on while others get hooked on it and still others go through the Jones of withdrawal?" If you answer "Yes," then you'd have a tough time making a case against the legalization of some other drugs. Me? I'm not in favor of OTC anti-depressants. If their performance and safety were in line with aspirin or antibiotics, then I'd be fine with the idea. But they aren't and I'm not. Posted by Philip Dawdy at May 27, 2008 09:48 AM
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That a medication is OTC doesn't make it safe - my grandfather died from an overdose of an OTC medication - and I'm pretty sure more than just one psych med can kill if not properly taken / monitored. I don't pretend to know where American culture is these days, but I'd wager America's as litigious now as it was when I lived there: the pharmaceutical companies would need to first drop some of their prices to make the medications affordable OTC, then brace themselves for one law suit after another. Personally, I don't see big pharma companies taking that kind of risk. Posted by: Fallingleaf at May 27, 2008 11:10 AMI have a real problem with anti depressants being OTC because of the side effects (which if sold OTC people generally think it's "safe")and considering withdrawals, birth defects, so many factors that could really cause a lot of people a lot of problems, in my opinion it is a dangerous idea. Posted by: Stephany at May 27, 2008 11:34 AMI'm not quite sure why you're so surprised. Zantac and Claritin made it to OTC because they were so widely prescribed. Considering that antidepressants are the most prescribed class of drugs in America, I'm surprised fluoxetine (at the very least) hasn't been approved for OTC yet. Not that I want it to be but the FDA basically gives a rubber stamp of approval on almost anything these days. Posted by: Marissa at May 27, 2008 02:23 PMAs a bipolar person, I think it's a terrible idea. Unsupervised use of anti-depressants, especially without an accompanying mood stabilizer, can lead to terrifying episodes of mania in manic-depressives. There are times in my own past when, almost physically loathe to speak to anyone, I would have certainly self-medicated with anti-depressants had they been available OTC and would have probably done myself more manic mischief than good. The Libertarian might say I ought to be free to treat symptoms of my own illness and I applaud the impulse behind that thinking. But the thinking itself is flawed because my thinking might well be flawed, my decision-making poor, and easy access to drugs at that point could send me into spiky-haired mania. With medication I have narrowed my range of mood swings from severe depression-to-mania down to depression-to-hypomania. There are aspects of this disease I hate with all my liver. Submitting to a drug regime is one of them with the submission being the most offensive part. The hard truth is though, that in order to live a manageable life I must submit, I must give up some measure of the freedoms that, ideally, the Libertarian would like me to keep. Idealism versus practicality. Practicality will forever be the less sexy option but for people like me it is the only option. Posted by: problemchildbride at May 27, 2008 08:35 PMDon't worry about OTC. It's already in the water. Posted by: Lilly NC at May 28, 2008 03:05 AMThe only good thing about over the counter ssri's would be that then people taking them would face no stigma and soon we'd have groups like Mothers Against SSRI's after all of the ssri related deaths. Obviously prozac is much more dangerous than marijuana, heroin, or cocaine. I think we'd do better by making pot OTC, decriminalizing cocaine, having a heroin policy similar to the UK's and treating prozac as a poison like thalidomide. Posted by: Sally at May 28, 2008 03:25 AMI made an extensive comment at World of Psychology. One of my several points was this: As the Josephine Johnston mentioned in her interview, “to provide them over the counter, you’re decoupling them from [an important part of the treatment].” A pill alone without even education about one’s condition, let alone counseling, is not good treatment, in my opinion. Posted by: Ginkgo100 at May 28, 2008 09:49 AMprozac has ruined my life. Posted by: name at August 21, 2008 11:37 PMPost a comment
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