February 14, 2008What's Wrong With Psychiatry's Key Opinion Leaders, UW EditionYou know about how key opinion leaders, as they are called, are used by pharma companies in pharma marketing, right? These are the researchers and leading authorities in whatever medical field who are often paid handsome sums by companies to issue statements praising company X's anti-depressant or its cholesterol-lowering drug. The statements show up in press releases, in company marketing materials, or the KOLs make public statements at conferences and such. It's all about giving a sheen of credibility to whatever the drug of the moment is so that doctors will prescribe the drug without a second thought, regardless of whatever doubts may exist about the drug. Why wouldn't they? Some big shot has just said the drug works and the big shot is always right. That's why they get the big money from Big Pharma. I'm sure this system works out just fine somewhere in pharma marketing and that all parties involved are, in general, decent human beings. That said, CL Psych has parsed some of the recently released Paxil documents and it's clear that some KOLs were hip deep in the muck helping Glaxo obfuscate data that showed suicidality problems with Paxil. Among these folks is David Dunner, now an emeritus professor of psychiatry at the University of Washington. Yesterday, I told students who attended my talk on mental health that the UW Medical School's hands were fairly clean when it came to controversies around mental health issues. I decided not to mention a thing about Dunner, who's been busted in the conflict of interest sweepstakes before, since I didn't know about this Paxil business. Here's what Dunner did and said after apparently not reviewing underlying data from Glaxo concerning Paxil: "Suicides and suicide attempts occurred less frequently with Paxil than with either placebo or active controls." Thanks to recently released court documents we know that that isn't the case. In fact, Glaxo had been hiding the fact that it had known of increased suicidality attached to Paxil use since 1989. In 1995 Dunner co-authored a paper stating that Paxil reduced suicidality. "Consistent reduction in suicides, attempted suicides, and suicidal thoughts, and protection against emergent suicidal thoughts suggest that Paxil has advantages in treating the potentially suicidal client." Asked by a lawyer if he'd reviewed the underlying raw data as opposed to summary tables provided by Glaxo: "Dunner: I didn't see the raw data in the case report forms. I did see the tables. I work with the tables. The tables came before any draft, as I recall. We -- we created the paper from the tables. So why don't some researchers look at underlying data when they are authoring a paper? Does money from Glaxo buy that much laziness or academic disinterest? I would have no idea, but what burns me up about this kind of behavior--and Dunner is far from the only researcher to engage in it--is that researchers with MDs actually owe something to the patients who are the actual end users of their opinions. I'd wager that their Hippocratic oath requires it. So much for clean hands over at UW. Meanwhile, Bob Fiddaman at Seroxat Sufferers has posted pictures of some researchers who helped Glaxo hide the nad news about Paxil from their colleagues and patients. Yep, Dunner's picture is there. It's been almost 14 years since I ran into problems on Paxil--I was an early victim--and this still kind of pisses me off. Thanks for helping to protect my interests, Dr. Dunner. Posted by Philip Dawdy at February 14, 2008 12:05 AM
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Dunner & Co are part of history whether they like it or not. They have took wads of cash over human life... and that is unforgiveable. Fid Posted by: Fiddy at February 14, 2008 02:14 AMDear Philip, As usual you have interesting thoughts to present but I’d like to express an opinion on this your recent posting. While Dr. Dunner’s actions are certainly not to be condoned based upon your findings his actions and statements are similar to those I read from reporters and/or journalists like yourself who read someone else’s writings or simply do not delve deeply or completely into the subject matter and arrive at faulty conclusions. It seems we’re all guilty of these kinds of reasoning at one time or another based upon what it is we have read. Warmly,
Since you are naming names, could you name a few key names and titles from the Zyprexa papers: those individuals who discussed the lethal side effects and then made a decision not to reveal them in 1996. I would appreciate it. Posted by: sorrowful at February 14, 2008 12:21 PMDr. David L. Dunner was the 'thorn in the side' of the Prozac Survivors Support Group and the International Coaltion for Drug Awareness all through the 1990s. From the very earliest days Dr. Dunner pushed the glories of Prozac and the other SSRIs. He was accused of Ghostwriting and all kinds of malevolent acts as early as 1995. Wish you had said something about him to the students at the University of Washington. Posted by: Rosie at February 14, 2008 01:26 PMit would be nonsensical to call a physician critical of coercions in the name of dermatology and "anti-dermatologist," or a physician critical of coercions in the name of oncology an "anti-oncologist." the fact that it is NOT nonsensical to call a physician critical of coercions in the name of psychiatry and "antipsychiatrist" is evidence that psychiatry IS about coercion, NOT HEALING. *** p5 from words to the wise, 2oo4, t.szasz - i beg you to read the book, it'll give you so many ideas about how deep the psychotic rabbit hole goes... Posted by: z0tl at February 14, 2008 02:46 PMHerb, The paper that Dunner helped ghost write was sponsored by GlaxoSmithKline and co-authored by a Glaxo employee. See this link on the Scientists ties to Industry website: http://tinyurl.com/yv8ye4 He has ties to several drug companies. Dr. Dunner had a financial motivation not too delve too deeply. To compare that to people who make an innocent mistake is simply unfair. No matter what your spin is, what this man did is disgraceful. AA Posted by: AA at February 14, 2008 04:02 PMAA, Thanks for taking the time to cite that link for me. I have no spin other than to reasonable educate myself in support of maintaining my spouse’s wellness and to share my personal experiences, knowledge and thoughts as it relates to a specific therapy option that has, in her case, helped maintain her wellness. Warmly,
Herb, Not to belabor the points but this is what you said: "While Dr. Dunner’s actions are certainly not to be condoned based upon your findings his actions and statements are similar to those I read from reporters and/or journalists like yourself who read someone else’s writings or simply do not delve deeply or completely into the subject matter and arrive at faulty conclusions. It seems we’re all guilty of these kinds of reasoning at one time or another based upon what it is we have read." You were justifying his actions as a mistake any one of us could make instead of understanding that what he did was due to pure financial greed. To make sure I was being fair to you, I reread what you wrote and it seems to me you were making excuses for this guy which is spin in my opinon. That has nothing to with your wife's situation in my humble opinion. AA Posted by: AA at February 15, 2008 10:05 AMPost a comment
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