November 01, 2007Serotonin Hypothesis Debunked Yet AgainWell, maybe not debunked, but both CL Psych and John Grohol at Psych Central answer a commenter at CL's site who asserted that serotonin deficits explain depression and that there's lots of good evidence that SSRIs are just what the doctor ordered. CL Psych's response: "Despite making excellent marketing copy, studies have found no consistent abnormality in serotonin in depressed people. Doubt me? Read this excellent article by Lacasse and Leo (published in PLoS Medicine) that describes the gap between the marketing of serotonin in depression and the scientific literature." I encourage one and all to download and read the PLoS paper, which is easily digestible and lays out much of the scientific literature on the matter. But aren't SSRIs super-awesome for treating depression? "Try that about 80% of the drug effect is replicated by placebo – there is about a 20% difference in efficacy between placebo and antidepressant (Kirsch et al., 2002). Is that “great evidence” of efficacy? It’s more encouraging than 0% better than placebo, but I remain less than fully convinced. And about those sexual side effects and increased risk of suicidal thinking and suicide attempts… If depression was really due to poor serotonin function, then one would expect treatments that increase serotonin transmission would have a much stronger advantage over placebo." Now, it's Grohol's turn: "The upshot of the entry is this — serotonin deficiencies do not directly cause depression. There is obviously some relationship there, but what it is isn’t nearly as strong as originally thought, and may not even be a primary or key ingredient of depression." I'd get into this further myself but my time is extremely limited today. Comment away, readers. BTW, I will be approving comments sporadically after about Noon west coast time, as I am heading out of town after that till Saturday and my computer access will be hit and miss. Posted by Philip Dawdy at November 1, 2007 12:03 AM
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This past spring the depression topic came around on a literary discussion group mailing list I've been on for over 10 years. I posted the PLOS article. It had no effect. Someone backchanneled me that a lot of people on the list had had their lives changed by SSRI's. So I dropped it but hard information isn't enough to change the perception of big pharma's ad campaigns as reality. Posted by: Sally at November 1, 2007 07:14 AMThe major problem with the serotonin theory is that there's no way to find out whether the decreased serotonin level is the cause of depression or just the correlate. Also, the correlation isn't as direct as psychiatrists pretend. Some suicide victims have been shown to have excessive serotonin. Sally, I sympathize. I bring the topic up from time to time with a family member who swears by SSRIs. Unfortunately, one of her major pieces of evidence that she needs them is that the withdrawal syndrome is so gruesome. Posted by: Francesca Allan at November 1, 2007 08:59 AMThanks so much for that link. That's probably one of the most comprehensible and worthwhile things I've read on such an issue. The placebo effect in depression really seems to constantly show that people have this ideal of what they should feel like when "normal" and so they go and are granted antidepressants, and since they feel that this must have corrected that "imbalance" they can now at last feel normal. Oh, yesterday I told my psychiastrist about your site and he seemed very interested. Posted by: Nathaniel at November 1, 2007 09:08 AMRe: Serotonin, depression, Paxil & Zoloft [for example], here is an informative site dedicated to Christopher Pittman. If you aren't familiar with Christopher's story, take a minute and read about him. He was prescribed Paxil/Zoloft at age 12. A tragic example of SSRI induced violent behavior, in more ways than one. Taper Safely,Inc.:Chemical Imbalance? Prove it. Posted by: Stephany at November 26, 2007 06:28 PMPost a comment
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