I was told yesterday by a prominent shrink here that smoking is a form of self injury, right up there with cutting, burning and trich.

I then asked her

"Who told you that? A salesman for Chantix?"

Seriously though. It messed up a friend I have in real life pretty bad. He is a 3 pack a day smoker, he is down to 2 packs and says this stuff is terrible.

The TV commerical for this crap is a joke - It claims a success rate in the 40% range - But if you listen to the commerical carefully, you only get that success if you have some other type of support - Doctors should be encouraging people to the the non medicated supports rather than prescribing something with all this side effects!

I will never use an antidepressant again.

I was on Celexa for 2.5 years. It numbed my ability to see danger and take care of myself. It caused a fast weight gain of 30 lbs in 5 months (which is what caused me to stop using it).

Life on celexa was happy. I became involved with people in a lifestyle that I would never had entered - had I not been without my normal "fight or flight" defense mechanism.

I wonder if the problem with America's outrage is connected to our use of "happy pills", alcohol, drug addiction and sex addiction.

I am concerned that we are being fed drugs that cause us to be more "susceptible" and "open" to mind control.

The use of subliminal perception is back in vogue. We are propagandized to be perfectly thin, wealthy, of popular political persuasion, and somewhere - in the world of media today - darwinism is back in fashion. Dog eat dog. The fittest shall survive.

Those who are vulnerable and hurt, either due to life's disappointments, or lack of ability to measure up to the media world of perfection, are easy prey to an industry that creates a need and then feeds it.

Perhaps we should take a look at conspiracy theories. A new coined one - "Darwinian Consumerism" comes to my mind. Create the need....Feed the need.... Satiate the Greed.

Beware of changing your mental states with any addictive fix. Alcohol, drugs, sex - all mask our fears. Maybe if you are hurting - it is your body saying our culture is out of whack - not our selves.

I quit smoking with the nicotine patch after several years of listening to testimony from people trying to get social security disability for emphysema. These people usually were disabled. Smoking is dangerous. However, Chantix also seems to be dangerous too. As those of us who have given it up know, a drug that makes you not want to smoke must be doing something pretty powerful.

I've finally found a link to start my comparison of tobacco ads with the current round of direct to consumer drug ads. I'm sure lots of you already know that tobacco was initially advertised as good for your health, complete with "clinical" studies to back these claims up, a link to some cig ads:

http://www.library.uiuc.edu/adexhibit/cigarettes.htm

And you know how nice and eager the tobacco companies have been about pulling their product now that it's harmful qualities are a matter of public policy. Look for big pharma to continue to fight just as dirty as any tobacco company ever did.

I think it is extremely important that people be warned of other side effects when using Chantix. I think it is a great drug for most people, but they certainly need to do more research.

I have quit taking this drug b/c it literally made me have disturbing thoughts. While taking this drug i got so angry at our youngest baby that I wanted to spank her. She is only 5 mo. old, and is our second kid. I am used to baby's crying, it does not bother me. I have quit smoking before and never had these side effects. It was definately the Chantix that gave me these crazy thoughts. There is no doubt in my mind. Now that the drug is out of my system i feel normal again, and do not experience any of those emotions that i did on the medication. I really fear that someone will take this drug and hurt someone while doing it. If I had been told that I may have side effects like I did, I would have recognized what was happening much sooner. I consider myself very strong psycologically and emotionally, and I feel that these traits are the only thing that prevented me from hurting an innocent child. I'm worried that someone without strong control over their emotions will not have the restraint i did, and will hurt an innocent child or someone else. Please pass this info on. People must be warned about these side effects.

I agree with anon. I have tried Chapix twice(stupid me). The first time I had severe depressions and was very irritating. I contributed that to the fact that my father was dying of cancer. I did not manage to quit. I started on Champix again for 2 months ago. After a week I started to feel miserable and irritated. I combination with alchohol it had some weird side effects(dont drink while on champix). I quitted after three weeks after I had read comments from other users with similar symptoms. I still have problems but feeling that the stuff is getting out of the syste. Be careful with that pill !!!!!

I have been using Champix for seven weeks now and have stopped smoking for 5 glorious weeks. I've had NO side effects and no cravings. This drug is a marvel for those of us who are addicted and want to stop. I say yeah for Champix and I hope their stock soars.

Hi, Iam in the UK. My boyfriend went beserk on Christmas after drinking alchohol & he has been taking Champix for some months. He beat me, & completely trashed my home causing loads of damage...he was on a rampage for about two hours. I was taken in an ambulance & the police took an hour to get to my apartment, by which time they found him unconcious after taking an overdose of around 50 paracetamol & co-codamal. He survived but I have remained split up with him. I have pressed charges. I've now found out it could have very likely been the Champix has caused temporary psychosis? As far as I know, he had no history of mental health problems or violence. Please contact me if you can offer any advice for me. Many thanks!

chantix worked fine for me. you people are goobers. ya gotta want to quit in order to quit..

I'm in the UK. I gave up smoking on Christmas day. I started on Champix three days before then lost the desire to smoke. I couldn't believe it and was so pleased. However, at the end of January I noticed that my state of mind wasn't right - I became very hypa and agitated. to be brief, I thought I was going loopy. I was getting more aggressive and wanted to kill everyone. (I'm middle-aged and female). I am very aware of myself and very much in control of my emotions - a strong character, down to earth with my feet firmly on the ground. I also became weepy, which is just not me. I stopped taking the pills as I knew it could only be the drug that was causing the psychosis. I must add that I was taking only one a day, not the recommended two. It took a week for the drug to clear my body - now I feel back to normal and still of the fags I'm happy to say. I have made an appointment with my doctor just to give him feedback of my experience of the drug. The Doctor should be informed enough to spell out this dangerous side effect rather than just say 'stop if you get unpleasant symptoms'. While mentioning the experience to a colleague, she told me that a neighbour of hers developed psychosis and was fantasising about killing the kids and her husband. She is now back on the fags and is on anti-depressants, having never needed them before. Fortunately, I stopped taking them within three days of me having weird thoughts so I'm fine now and feel much better. I am very grateful, though, that the drug did take away the desire to smoke. I have spent thirty years trying to stop with every available type of help. I would say, be very careful and STOP immediately you start to have strange moods and thoughts. As for Jason's comment above, I've worked in re-habs and I've never met an addict who doesn't want to quit heroine. Get real man! it takes a lot more than the desire to quit a very powerful substance (including booze).

I have been taking Chantix for 4 weeks and like many people was happy that I had no cravings after about 4 days of taking it. However after about two weeks I noticed that I was feeling wound up all the time...I put this down to the withdrawal of the cigarettes...but steadily over the last two weeks I have felt angry at everything...I am usually a very level headed person...who can see the funny side of most things and is able to laugh at herself and the dilemmas in life...but my sense of humour is now very negative...everyone bugs me and I just don't want to be nice to anyone...I just seem to of lost my sparkle and zest and my mood is effecting my family and friends...I am checking in with my doc and getting some advice...I do not want to take this medication anymore and I do not want to smoke...I am going to try hard to find another way...but I am very concerned that people who take this medication are not told of this side effect as it is a real issue as I see it...I hate to think that someone who already has an angry disposition would be put on Chantix and suffer the same side effects....this is a tragedy waiting to happen...be careful...

If you feel like that, stop taking it. Don't wait till your Doctor appointment. I stopped taking the drug a few days after noticing that my thinking was going off track. The nicotine is out of your body in days so you won't need any other method if you had the Champix for four weeks. The rest is in your head. I'm still off the fags. It's not without effort but I know that the demon will be there for a long, long, time and that's what I keep telling myself, so it's a matter of ignoring the demon.
So far, the money I've saved has paid for this year's holiday. I don't cough anymore. My skin and eyes are much clearer. I don't get breathless walking up hills, and my energy levels have shot up. There are too many positive reasons to be a none smoker, and only negative reasons to start again. Ok, so I've put a little weight on but I am already dealing with that now that my body has got over the shock of not having the nicotine. I have now stopped much of the nibbling of food, and I walk rather than drive when it's not too far a journey. Good luck.

Please nobody ever take this deadly drug. I was a perfectly normal live life to the full 39 year old woman, thats up and till a week ago when i started champix.I have cried now for the last 7 days and feared for my life. This drug as completely ruined my life. I have never ever suffered depression in my life until i took this pill. I couldnt even dress myself, care for my children or communicate with the outside world. These should be banned. My husband took these tablets and burnt them on sunday, and the sooner they out my system the better. I just hope I can pick up my life again......

I have been taking Chantix for 11 weeks with no side effects at all. I have had one craving with was quickly curbed. I have noticed no mood swings nor ill thoughts. I can breathe again!

It is scary to me that drug reaction is so different between people. More research is really needed to find out what causes these life altering side effects then screen people before prescribing.

i have been on champixx for five weekks and i have had no bad side affects. BUT o my god have i got bad wind its driving me mad and my girlfriend and you no its bad when you cant stand tou own. my doc said try one tablet a day nd trust me if that does not work im off them thats how bad the smell is. SORRY for being so crued

i to used champix after 3 weeks i beat my husband for 3 hrs for absolutly nothing iam now single champix has ruined my life

Champix quickly took me to a dark, sad place. Everything that used to make me feel good, was making me feel bad. I felt the same aching sadness I felt when I had my baby premature, & he died during the birth. I have been off champix for two weeks, & still feel paranoid & sometimes sad. My memory of the last month is a blur. I cant concentrate, I cant find anything, I cant do simple maths. People try and blame it on nicotine withdrawal, I have been smoking since I stopped taking champix & already felt miserable on champix, before I stopped smoking, as have many people. If you are taking champix DONT DRINK ALCOHOL. It has set off alot of people phsycotic episodes & been the result of a couple of the suicides, self harm, & harming others. I though I was loosing my mind after 4 drinks. Please be careful if you are taking Champix, it has ruined lots of peoples lifes, and has temporarily ruined mine. If you dont believe my story, google Champix & read other's stories

Champix is a very strong drug that messes up your mind. It did help me to stop smoking and I have not smoked now for 11 months but the side effects are no fun at all. It ALMOST removed my need to smoke but it was as if the world outside my head was not real and I was not able to remember things as I should.After the initial low dose start period I was having nightmares that were so vivid I was almost unable to tell if the things in the dreams were real or not. I stopped taking it at that point and went cold turkey.

I have just started this drug,
And after reading all the neg and pos comments makes one wonder.
If this drug can just give me a boosted start and help me in some way. I guess thats all i can ask for.Dont think i am willing to beat or abuse some one for the sake of quiting.... why u people wouldnt have contacted your dr is beyound me.
There is only less then 300 reported cases of ill side affects... Now come on i am sure your not all in this blog here,,
I think there are a lot of neg people in this world and being neg can cause propblems... i read each and every posting here, And have deside i am going to continue this duration of the drug. If there is side effects i will be one of the smart ones and make sure it gets reported to the proper places.
I am not willing to continue smoking nor and i willing to be a nasty abusive person...
I wish all of you luck on your journey... and hopefully you will all use a bit of common sense while taken this drug.....

Ok here i am back a week later. The pill has helped the craven of the smoke to some degree.
Smoking only a quater of what i was butting and relighten.... However i feel like crap//// tired could just drop and sleep any time... my coffee tastes bad... i am a heavey coffee drinker and am only getting 1 cup down a day... this coild also be a reason for the tiredness,,,, I am not throwing in the towel yet. I want to quit bad.... so i will stick it out a bit longer and see maybe this feeling will leave...
Keep u all posted
Gina

I have had a similar issue, i have been on Champix for 6 weeks now and after 10 days of hardly any sleep and some of the strangest dreams i have ever had i went back to the practice nurse, notice i say nurse????, who reduced my dosage to the smaller twice a day, sleep improved however i have started with some really bad mood swings and the worst was on saturday night while out with work, and drinking quite heavily i had a psychotic episode which has seriousley scared me as i can remember nothing of this and work colleagues have filled me in on all the gory details, on this occasion no harm has happened to me or any others.

What has scared me most is that if this drug has these abilities why is a nurse prescribing this, and i would add not even a practioner nurse, also why does it not state on the label or leaflet avoid alchohol, i think it is clear from all of us on here that have had these issues that had we been warned we would have avoided it.
I am going back to the doctors when i can get an appointment to discuss this further and will update once i have feedback.

I have been on champix for 6weeks and smoke free for 3 weeks.I hate every minute of my day!(except that I have quit smoking!)I feel awful all day long...sick to my stomach since day one. Now I am so miserable, and so afraid if I stop taking Champix I will smoke again.My partner had a heart attack and it was my wake up call to quit smoking.I am 45 yrs old....you name the " quit smoking products"...I've tried them all.Champix started to work after 3 days and I am thankful for that, but at what price. Some days I am so sleepy or bitchy,sick or no energy..but not suicidal.I've tried so hard to get over this but everyday I get up and feel everything but myself.Like so many I believe it's from not smoking as I have smoked for 30 yrs.I'm so at a loss, I know i'm not strong enough to stay a non smoker on my own.

Ok here is the update, apparantley i had an adverse reaction to the tablets and my doctor has taken me off them with immediate effect, my doctor says she is going to write to Pfizer reference the issue of not mentioning anything about using and consuming alchohol, all i would recommend to anyone is dont risk it i was luck that some of my friends helped me, and from what i have seen of other comments i owe them a lot.

I am currently on Champix for the past 4 weeks and I stopped using this. It's really messing up your mind so much that I have a hard time writing something that makes sense. The first week while smoking and the next 2 were okay... but at 4 weeks it all went downhill)

My side effects on Champix: Hazy,stomach pain, bloated, hard belly, foul winds and f*cked up dreams!

( Other side effects that may be due to smoking widthdrawal: Depressed & Restless )

My recommendation: Do 1 week while smoking and 2 weeks cigarette free and then stop.

Nevertheless, I have been cigarette free for a whole month so I am happy about that.

I started using it 10 days ago and stupidly drank with it even though I knew I wasnt suppose to but yeah I went out to a bar and I don remember a thing.I didnt drink more than usual and I was hammered a punched a guy in the face at the bar and grabbed him by the throat and then when arriving home I guess yelled like a lunitic for an hour or so then I kicked my boyfriend in the face and then just passed out , with barely any recolation of this at all, and I have never been an angry person.

I have been using Champix for 14 days. I went out on Friday night with my standard amount of drinks. I have never been so angry without any reason it just came over me! DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL with champix!!

I was on Champix for 7 weeks. Very easily quit smoking and had the sick stomach, bloating, gas, but the worst for me was the heartburn. Had to stop taking the drug because I was in constant pain from the heartburn. Does this go away? This has been a wonder drug for me. I have tried to quit smoking a million times, but the heartburn is killing me.

I took Champix back in 2007 before Pfizer re-vamped the warning label, had weird dreams, night terrors and eventually ended up in the back of police car, not remembering an pair of assaults, descruction of my home or terrorizing my family. There is a class action now underway as of tomorrow in Canada to bring Pfizer to justice for not properly testing this drug before it was released. If I knew that this was even a remote possibility I would not have taken it!

This is a scary drug in that the side affects can be quite severe. I have known many people that have taken this drug. One person said it worked brillantly for him, and he has effectively stopped smoking. However, I know about four people, including myself, that the drug has had adverse affects on. Personally, I became a totally different person. By the third week of taking these drugs, I felt miserable - I was extremely depressed, suicidal and violent. I smashed household objects one night (although I never hurt anyone else) and cut myself up. I have never done, or felt like doing that before in my life. I was constantly crying and extremely sensitive to the smallest comments made by others, whereas normally I am quite a hardy person. The day after I had a suicidal episode I immediately stopped taking the drug and once it was out of my system, I felt completely normal again and was back to my old self. I left my partner 3 times while I was taking champix, thankfully he was very understanding and we got back together. During the time I took this drug I also felt extremely flat, tired, irritated and had really sore guts. Two other people I know also had a bad experience on this drug - one guy developed an extremely bad temper; the other girl also felt suicidal. I reported all this to my doctor after I had stopped taking it just so he knew that it was dangerous. Please be warned, I understand this drug works for some very well, but for others it is a nightmare. I would never touch the stuff again, I am going to quit smoking however I am not willing to put myself, family or freinds in immediate danger for the sake of it.

I have been a smoker for 16yrs (25 a day) and I started on Champix now for 5 weeks and haven't had a cigarette for 3 of those weeks. I really feel I have quit, even the thought of a cigarette disgusts me. So to all the people who have negative impressions of this pill well that's totally up to you, but they worked for me. They are FANTASTIC!

I successfully went on champix (canadian name) to quit smoking. I thought it was a bloody wonder drug. I simply forgot to smoke my 1.5 - 2 pack a day habit.

The entire time at work, I was having a struggle pulling it together, making decisions... I didn't attribute it to the champix until I went off it. One week after, I started getting really depressed, and one day I woke up teary. By that afternoon I was intensly suicidal and having auditory hallucinations.

I was put on antipsychotics and ativan. I still have some positive symptoms a week later and dont' know if I'll get better or not. I'm off work.

on the other hand... I'm not smoking...

I am so glad I found this site. I started taking Chantix 4 weeks ago. After 1 week, I started the 2 pills per day and that's when the dreams got really strange. I couldn't determine if what had happened in my dream was real or not. (ex, I dreamt my husband's brother was arrested, woke up and had to ask him if it had happened...WEIRD!!) I gave it one more night and stopped because I had read where some meds can cause people to hurt themselves or others because they think their dreams are so real.

I went to just 1. I can't tell you what happened for the next 14 days because I don't remember. I have been told things and I can't remember.

The end was a week ago when I could go to work because felt like I was in a deep dark pit. Two days later, I started feeling suicidal. (YES, IT WILL DO THAT!).

So, PLEASE be careful. I had people watching me for behavior changes, but the thoughts come before the behavior and it's bad.

Try exercise to get rid of the nicotine cravings. It's worked for me...no cigs in 4 weeks.

I am 32 years old and until a week ago had everything - a gorgeous, brilliant girlfriend, a great apartment we could comfortably afford, 2 careers working side by side going from strength to strength (bartending and acting), and tickets and spending money for a holiday for 2 to africa which is where I should be right now. My employer thinks I am on holiday until the 9th. All I wanted to do was quit smoking.

I had tried patches, gum, inhalers, £600 on 4 hypnotherapy treatments, but nothing worked.
I was given a prescription for Champix by my GP and told that "some people get a little 'down' when they take this, stop taking it if you do." I took it for 4 weeks with NO side effects. I quit on the date I set and had no problems at all.

I wasn't told not to drink alcohol with it. I am a head cocktail bartender in a very exclusive bar. I taste (2-5ml) every drink i make, and in a busy night will make up to 200 drinks. I know a lot more about alcohol than most people. I have to have quite a high tolerance to alcohol to do my job and am good at gauging when I or anybody else have had enough.

On August 29th, my girlfriend and I went out with a couple of her friends to celebrate her birthday. We had a great meal in our local gastro pub and had booked a party room upstairs for some other friends to join us after the meal. People started to arrive and we went upstairs. At this point I had drunk 2 small glasses of wine, and a beer. In the next 2.5 hours I had 3 cocktails and another beer. My last firm memory is of sitting chatting to a couple of our freinds, and standing up to kiss her, tell her I love her and wish her a happy birthday.

About 5 hours later I woke up in a jail cell, wearing a different pair of jeans than I had gone out in and nothing else. My face and wrists were badly scratched and I ached all over. I felt very drunk and exhausted.

The hatch to my cell opened and a pair of eyes looked me over and a voice asked if I was ok. All i could say was "why am I here?". The voice responded "you've been arrested for assaulting your girlfriend and assaulting a police officer. Would you like some water?"

I crumpled. I was crushed. Devestated. I couldn't even cry. I was left to sober up and consider what I had done. But I could not remember ANYTHING.

I was told in a recorded interview that I had dragged her naked into the street and left her there until one of our neighbours let her in, then I had tried to smother her with a pillow, then dragged her to the bathtub and tried to drown her. At some point I gave up on this and went to bed. She fled the apartment and went to a bar, begging people to call the police. When they arrived I assaulted them and it took 4 officers to get me in cuffs and into a van. I have never even had a speeding ticket.

I am now out of jail on bail until a hearing in 3 days time and am probably going to serve 6 months in prison. My bail conditions deny me any contact with my girlfriend, anybody who was at the party or our neighbours. I can't imagine she will forgive me or that our beautiful house will ever be our house again. I am not allowed in most of north london. I am staying at my mum's with a few old clothes I left here 3 years ago. I have 3 pairs of pants. No phone. No wallet. Nothing. I will definitely lose my bartending job when my employer finds out. When I am unable to audition due to being in prison my agent will drop me and the career I have been working towards for the last 8 years will end just as it was starting to get going.

This all happened a week ago and it still doesn't feel real. It's not my life - It can't be. I'm a professional, well respected, well liked guy with everything going for him.

If anybody knows a good criminal solicitor who would represent me I would be grateful.

If anyone wants to start a class action lawsuit against Pfizer, let me know - I think I am about to have a lot of time on my hands.

If anybody knows someone thinking of taking Veranicline/Champix, show them this note.

I have been on champix for 6weeks now. The good news is i have been smoke free for 4 weeks. However i do feel really down,and feel i have nothing to look forward to. I have crazy dreams every night and reading the comments on here have made me very scared. I have had a drink but not much because im concerned i will smoke, i am really determined to give up but not at the cost of something else. Has anyone stopped taking them before the recommended timescale and remained off the disgusting cigs??,

I gave up smoking 4 months ago using champix. I felt out of sorts and strange at times, but when you go from 40+ cigs a day to zero it felt right to feel different... I only took one tablet a day most of the time, I let my cravings dictate the tablet taking. I wasn't prepared for the cravings so you really do need to want to give up and actively spend energy on saying NO!
Why is giving up smoking so hard??
Anyway it's been almost two months now since I stopped taking the tablets. I don't feel like me. I am down and probably depressed. I have felt anger.. but not to the extent of hurting anyone!!It's hard to concentrate. and that is not like me... I put on 10kg in the second month of quitting!! I am trying now to sort that. And the wind.. so glad others mentioned that as a symptom as I was thinking it was just me and my fat arse. lol. I didn't drink much at all, it felt like champix took out the need for alcohol as well.
I feel great to not be smoking! I think it's going to be hard for anyone to prove that champix is the reason for the changes in life when giving up smoking can cause all of these changes.... maybe I wouldn't have taken the drugs if I read this first. But at the same time I am so happy to be smoke free..now I need time to get happy and fix the weight :-) I'm going to do that drug free style. Wish me luck!

I started taking champix 5 weeks ago and have not had a cigarette for 3 weeks.to be honest i didnt really believe that they would work but having wanted to give up smoking for a long time and having no will power at all I thought it was worth a try. I found that during the second week of taking them i gradually cut down the amount i was smoking and in the end thought whats the point in having 1 cigarette a day. Ive had little or no cravings at all although i have had some of the side effects, i.e. feeling sick,sleepless nights,flatulance, strange dreams,but most of these had passed in the first 2 weeks and in my view a small price to pay to be a non smoker after 33 years of being a heavy smoker. I just am hoping that i stay smoke free when i stop taking them.In my view they are a miracle and although they may not be for everyone are certainly worth a try.

I took Champix for about 1 month before it sent me loopy I was on antidepression pills before i started i had the dreams and servere mood changes woke up one morning and could'nt stop crying my partner took me to the doctors he said I was menapausal I had blood tests everything fine even though I was still pumping out the hormones he put me one hrt tablets what a joke.my partner also took champix and stopped smoking but we have both been off them for about 6 months and have found that although we have a healthy lifestyle we are rapidly putting on weight we have tried everything to loose our extra kilos but we continue to gain weight.I think the drug has switched on fat cells or something Iwas a healthy 61kg smoker before all this shit and now closing in on 70kg and yes i am smoking my partner has gain close to 15kg and still going up something is not right. is anyone else having this problem it is distroying my life i hate myself

A friend of mine recommended Champix. I spoke to my local GP about getting rid of the dreaded smokes and he tendered the same advice.

Day 1 I felt slightly nauseous but just attributed that down to drugs in my system. Aside from the odd beer and the cigs I barely even touch a panadol.

Day 2 and 3 were okay and things settled down nicely.

I picked my quit date and was more than ready. Wind yes, Indegestion yes, but a small price to pay I thought for being able to stop smoking in such a short space of time without yelling the crap at my kids.

THEN I took the first 1 mg tablet. It was late that night and I just thought it would be like the first tablet and things would settle down the next day or two.

No. I shook, I had a severe case of vertigo. I could barely stand without shaking. It was the most horrible feeling I have ever had in my life.

My partner and I were on our way to the cricket that morning and all I could do was basically sit still, close my eyes every now and then and hope to stay upright.

I dumped the packet in a bin on the way home.

After that feeling it has been easy. I am 10 days from that cricket match and every second day I reduce the amount of smokes I have by 1.

I am now down to 10 a day and in 3 weeks will be smoke free.

Any time I feel like a cig I dont need to look at the warnings on the packets, dont need to worry about cancer, dont need to worry about the health factors.

All I need to do is remember how taking champix made me feel and what its like to put crap in your body.

BTW, yes I might have yelled at the kids the odd time but I tell myself they deserved it lol.

good luck all and ditch that crap

Hi all,

I started using Champix about a month ago, PLEASE DO NOT DRINK ALCOHOL WHEN YOU TAKE THIS. I went to a party recently, drank about 8 pints over the period of 8 hours, the last hour of the evening was a blur and I have no memory. The next day I find that I have assaulted a work colleague for no reason ( i have never even had a fight before) and a whole host of other career risking activities. Fortunately I could provide evidence that other people have experienced the same problem.

This is not to mention the depression I have felt, the black dog has reared his head and Im told by my GP it wont be long till he is gone, once this bloody stuff is out of my system.

However, there is a risk analysis here, would you rather be depressed for a few months and stop smoking or probably die of lunch cancer....

I know which I and my family would find more depressing.

"Im told by my GP it wont be long till he is gone, once this bloody stuff is out of my system".

Your GP is only guessing the depression will be gone in a few months. Or repeating what the drug company rep told him.

I hope he was right.

I tried taking Champix 2 times. Both times I quit smoking and was amazed that it took away the cravings so well. Both times I took them I was having the bad disturbing dreams, which were also disturbing my sleep. It was like I was up all night on some sort of adventure. Needless to say I never felt like I was getting a full nights sleep. I cut back to one tablet a day and this helped with the dreams they weren't so vivid and less frequent. Main reason I stopped taking them is I started to not feel like my self. I experienced the anger and depression. Also it seem like it put me in a state of "I don't give a shit" Ive lost my zest for alot ie dealing with my son, my boyfriend, people in general. I discontinued the champix 2 mths ago but still feel the same. I had a couple of beers last night and was feeling suicidal. Has anyone else experienced this and how long does it take to get out of, what feels like, "my mind"

@shelly most people I have run across on the net ended up having to take something like an antidepressant to start feeling better. I have been off the pill for more than 2 years now and am still having major issues with depression, anxiety, depersonalization, and other random disabling mental issues.. Don't mean to scare you and I hope you feel better soon.

We have to stop smoking because it kills you and the others around you. Period.
I would like to know where are the scientifical data that have created all this fanaticism against smoking.
Amon Oz in his book "How to cure a fanatic" talks about this kind of fanaticism and claims that fanaticism is a virus that is very dangerous.
I agree with him.
Okay! The second-hand smokers! Where are the scientific data?

Causa mortis: "second-hand smoker"

"Siegel, who has long supported bans on smoking in the workplace, believes bans like the one proposed by Parks go too far:

Anti-smoking advocates...are promoting such extreme proposals that go far beyond the documented scientific evidence that they need to create their own facts in order to justify these proposals.

You can't credibly argue that smoking needs to be banned everywhere outdoors to protect the health of nonsmokers using the actual truth about the severity of health risk from secondhand smoke exposure. There simply is no evidence that a few wisps of secondhand smoke, as one might encounter from someone smoking on a sidewalk or in a street, parking lot, or park puts people's health at risk and represents a significant public health problem.

I agree with Siegel that broad outdoor smoking bans are not justified by any health risk that secondhand smoke poses. But unlike him, I'm also against government-imposed smoking bans on private property, including businesses as well as residences. And Parks, for all his fanaticism, offers an argument that supports this position, saying his aim is to "move smokers and smoking away from people who do not choose to either smoke or inhale secondhand smoke." What if we had indoor locations where people were allowed to smoke and where everyone who entered knew about this rule? Maybe people also could have a drink or a bite to eat in these places, which would be restricted to customers who "choose to either smoke or inhale secondhand smoke." Surely this is an idea Parks could get behind."

http://reason.com/blog/2008/08/13/bernie-parks-encourages-smokin