October 05, 2007

The Zyprexa Chronicles: Interview With Mother Of Zyprexa Victim

The following is an interview with Ellen Liversidge, mother of Rob. He was a 39-year-old with bipolar disorder who died in 2002 after taking Zyprexa. Today is the fifth anniversary of his death.

Tell us about your son.

Rob grew up in Burlington, Vermont, Western Massachusetts, and Philadelphia. He was precocious, kind, and read at age 3. He became manic/psychotic at age twenty after going off to Cornell and having a hard time getting going every day. For the first three years, he was misdiagnosed as schizophrenic and took every possible "old" antipsychotic. He bounced in and out of the hospital like a rubber ball and was unable to accomplish much of anything. Finally, with his agreement, we found a very skilled psychiatrist who, in addition to diagnosing him correctly with manic depression, helped him get back up on his feet. He finished college and got a Master's at Cornell. He stayed on lithium all this time - for thirteen years - and although the symptoms broke through three or so times, he was able to get back up again.

How did he happen to start taking Zyprexa? What was he told about the drug?

It was during a rough period in Maryland when he was jobless that he signed on for the first time to Medicaid. The psychiatrist pushed him onto Zyprexa, saying that he needed a "stronger" drug and also saying that it was very safe.

We were very naive and trusting (this was the year 2000) and never thought of not believing the doctor. The doctor told us that the illness got worse the longer you had it (another reason to switch to "stronger" Zyprexa) but I have since found out that this is not true.

How long did he take Zyprexa for and what happened?

Rob gained almost 100 pounds. Two years later, he said one day that he felt "strange". Though he wanted to go to the hospital, I, to my eternal sorrow, didn't take him. Two days later, on September 30, 2000, he fell into a coma and never came out. He died on October 5, 2002, at Shady Grove Adventist Hospital in Rockville , Maryland.

He was a much-loved, thirty nine year old man. The Medicaid care was lousy in addition to the fact that he died from it. He needed and got therapy but I think he felt very poorly while on the drug and this prevented him from getting, again, back on his feet.

We both fought hard, for a long time, but in the end were defeated by a poison drug. I miss him as if it were yesterday. Despite feeling poorly, and being "fat", and having his life not going so well due to the drug, he maintained a sharp intellect, a great sense of humor, and the ability to love.

After Rob died, how did you learn there might be a connection to Zyprexa?

The doctors knew Rob died of profound hyperglycemia but they didn't know why. They tested him for West Nile virus, AIDS, and a couple of other things. I found out what it was from an article written by Syd Wolfe of Public Citizen who, earlier that year, wrote of concern over the drug. He also said that two other countries, Japan and UK, had required Lilly to place warnings on the labels for diabetes, hyperglycemia, and death. This happened in Spring 2002. The FDA only acted in late 2003 partly due to huge frontpage articles in the Baltimore Sun, Wall St. Journal, and NYTimes and the label didn't only go on the worst drug, Zyprexa, but the FDA made all the atypicals put it on so as not to single out Lilly. But Lilly was scared so I think this is why they came up with Viva Zyprexa.

Did you sue Lilly and what was the outcome?

No discussion of lawsuit possible.

What should other people learn from your family's experience with Zyprexa, the mental health system and the courts?

If I had it to do again, I would definitely have investigated orthomolecular and other kinds of non prescription drug therapy. These areas have everything going against them, including the insurance companies. Right now I am reading a book about alternative therapies - however this should be attempted with a good guide and there are only but so many of these available. I would also listen closely to Syd Wolfe's advice :"Do NOT take a drug until it has been out on the market for seven years. It often takes this long to shake the truth out, to learn of the lethal side effects." I can understand someone who is dying of cancer trying something new, but people with mental illness are used as guinea pigs and their average life expectancy is shorter because of it. I have two friends who lost their only sons - in their twenties - from Zyprexa. Dying at such an early age will surely bring the average age of death down for people with mental illness.

Be very wary of Medicaid and Medicare. Many scams have turned up in these programs, such as bribing state officials to get a drug on the formulary. People who are poor are much more at risk. Beware of front groups such as NAMI. Who do you think pays for their offices in every state?

If something awful does happen to a family member, consider it a memorial to that person to battle back so as to save the lives of others. Not that many people take this stance but it is the stance I took from the start and I will remain that way for the rest of my life.

Help other people with mental illness in whatever way you find that is right for you.

Don't believe what you hear just because a doctor says it is so. Many doctors are on the take; psychiatrists have nothing left to do but prescribe pills now that they are no longer a "talking" profession.

Robert Passmore Liversidge III, May 15, 1963 to October 5, 2002

Posted by Philip Dawdy at October 5, 2007 12:05 AM
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A poignant interview with excellent advice; I have found orthomolecular psychiatry to be a Godsent! Congrats!

Posted by: Cyprian at October 5, 2007 07:42 AM

Question - Do some drugs just make a person gain weight or does the drug trigger the person's appetite?

Posted by: Bea at October 5, 2007 08:14 AM

Always look to the drug first!

Posted by: Jane at October 5, 2007 10:14 AM

Psychiatrists aren't all cynical, and not everyone has given up on the "talking cure." (Which has helped me personally quite a bit.) But doctors' advice is only as good as the data supporting it. We lack good-enough data on the safety and effectiveness of drugs--let alone on safer alternatives which no one will invest in studying because no one's going to make much money prescribing vitamins or talk therapy. We need much better, public-interest research.

Posted by: Carol at October 5, 2007 06:14 PM

Your son sounds like the kind of person we would all like to have known and I am profoundly sorry for your loss.
May I tell you that it would not have made any difference if you had gotten him to a hospital. You probably have already been told that by people in healthcare.
What does "make a difference" is that you are using your Grief to educate unsuspecting parents/patients about the dangers of certain drugs. We thank you for that.

Posted by: Bobbysgirl at October 6, 2007 04:22 AM

I would like to thank Ellen for sharing her story, I can imagine it must be a difficult thing to do, and where she says, "to my eternal sorrow I didn't take him",[to the hospital]--I want you to know I understand the phrase 'eternal sorrow', as I feel this at times, due to listening to a doctor convince me to give Zyprexa to my daughter from age 11-19,[i999-2005]and it's important to let readers know here, that the information regarding Zyprexa was not available to Ellen, her son or my daughter and myself. I read this story, and felt much grief, and honestly feel grateful my daughter survived this long. Thanks for this article.

Posted by: Stephany at October 6, 2007 07:43 AM

http://www.gmhcn.org/files/Articles/SavingYourOwnLife.html

See above link for more wisdom from Ellen Liversidge--> Saving Your Own Life.

Philip at Furious Seasons and Stephany at soulful spelcher are asking the tough questions & are giving us cold hard facts. We need to stop being passive and instead, be skeptical, be pro-active and be informed by "taking your wellness, and your life, into your own hands."

Posted by: booknan at October 10, 2007 03:03 PM

Zyprexa can set your eating thermostat on high and make wolfing down food and drink an occupation. It seems this happens to many, but not all, who take the drug. Whether it makes you gain weight in addition, as a separate factor, I don't know. I am not sure that the researchers fully understand the mechanism.

To the mother whose daughter is still alive, halleluyah. I hope and pray she is okay.

As far as getting Rob to the hospital on time, t ime is of the essence with hyperglycemia. It takes a certain amount of time to bring the glucose levels down - it's not an automatic thing. With two extra days, he just might have made it. This is one reason that I am hoping Phil will post the symptoms of hyperglycemia, though at least Lilly is now discussing getting blood glucose tests on its label.

If you want to talk to me personally, feel free to email Phil for my email address. And thank you for your kind words.

Posted by: Ellen at October 12, 2007 06:33 AM

Ellen, thank you for sharing and being a voice after losing your son, I'm so sorry I know words cannot fill in what you already feel. My daughter by age 15 felt the blood sugar spikes and always ate protein snacks during the day, at such a young age she saw the connection and was outraged by age 17 enough to fire the doc who had her on Zyprexa when she heard about the "new" diabetes connection, and told him she wanted off of it. He told her to take a walk to lose the weight, and she walked out that door and fired him. I then drove her to the PCP and requested a fasting blood sugar test, the lipid levels, all of that, even thyroid. It all came back off the charts.
Today, she is inpatient in a psychiatric hospital, and most likely will not return home unless a miracle happens.

Posted by: Stephany at October 12, 2007 03:11 PM

Oh, I am so sorry. It might be worth your while to research orthomolecular psychiatry and other alternative therapies. We are considering it in our family (riddled with people with bipolar) even though making such changes is pretty terrifying.

Don' ever give up. She is alive and that is a start.

Posted by: Ellen at October 13, 2007 08:40 AM

Thanks ellen for sharing your heartful feelings.
Its really bad that mother had lost her son while she alive in this world.
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