October 01, 2007

An Interview With Christopher Lane

A couple of weeks ago, Christopher Lane, an English professor at Northwestern University, wrote an op-ed in the New York Times that was very critical of the diagnosis of social anxiety disorder, especially in children. His piece has gotten a lot of attention and generated some anger in the mental health world. Lane's new book, Shyness: How Normal Behavior Became A Sickness is just out. I have not bought the book yet, but if it's anything like his op-ed and the following interview we just did, then it ought to be fascinating.

So what inspired you to write the book?

Several things, really: Like many people, I’m sure, I felt bombarded by all the pharmaceutical ads for social anxiety disorder that came out a few years ago. I wanted to find out what was behind them and, indeed, what the psychiatrists meant by “social anxiety disorder.” The phrase sounded so ominous and, at the same time, so peculiar.

I had just finished a book on hatred and misanthropy in the nineteenth century, and some of the research for that book led me to recent studies on how medication might cure us of misanthropes today. Because the Romantics, in particular, greatly admired misanthropes, revering them as scolds fed up with greed and social corruption, I grew quite alarmed and began to wonder what would happen in our Enron-age if all those skeptics, curmudgeons, dissenters, and whistle-blowers were on Prozac and Paxil. Would we be more complacent about our problems or more motivated to tackle them? What would have happened in the Victorian age, too, if all those social critics pushing for reform had been medicated?

What did you run into in your research? Any surprises?

I unearthed an amazing archive of unpublished letters at the American Psychiatric Association about the creation of this disorder. Finding it involved lots of luck and a keen sense that this was a fascinating, necessary story worth pursuing. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is commonly known (whether seriously or as a joke) as the “bible” of psychiatry. Certainly, it’s true that people apply it chapter and verse! So I wanted to know how this complex manual went through so many dramatic changes. Who was behind them? And what was motivating their desire to add so many dozens of new disorders to the manual? Above all, were they right—and were their changes necessary and helpful?

And what did you discover?

Well, let’s just say I’m far more concerned about psychiatry now than I was going into this project. After all, I reviewed literally hundreds of the psychiatrists’ letters and memos. I know every small and major reform they pushed for, including highly confidential recommendations that of course were never made public, but that had serious consequences behind the scenes. And much of what they did was very questionable.

Some of them pushed for their own disorders to get adopted. Some wanted to promote their friends or thwart their enemies, and openly joked about that. Some of their sample sizes were embarrassingly low—-in one case involving just one person the advocate of the disorder had himself treated! That’s no basis for saying a disorder belongs in the DSM-—especially not if you’re claiming the manual is highly scientific. Even one of the main players has since gone public, saying much of their research was “really a hodgepodge—scattered, inconsistent, ambiguous.” That tells you something, but it’s honestly not even the half of it.

Give us an example of what you found.

One psychiatrist wanted approval for something he called “chronic undifferentiated unhappiness disorder,” which aimed to pathologize people who grumble and complain a lot. He actually said, “To be included in this category are persons who heretofore were known by the synonyms: ‘kvetch,’ ‘scootch,’ ‘noodge,’ and just plain ‘neurotic.’ ” Can you believe that? It would be laughable if the situation weren’t so serious.

Now, the psychiatrists like to say they’re interested only in addressing chronic suffering—-a person’s symptoms must truly be impairing, and so on-—but the criteria they list are far from being so. They’re responsible, then, for creating untold confusion about such key matters as where we should draw the line between shyness and social anxiety disorder.

What they do is list the most common fears and dislikes going, and then assert that these are symptoms of an unrecognized mental disorder needing potent drugs for suitable treatment. I find that very troubling, especially when you consider that over 5,000 Americans start a new course of Paxil every day.

The psychiatrists also love to say that their critics are prolonging people’s misery—-a response directed at me personally, after my op-ed in the New York Times warning about overmedicating youngsters. That’s a marvelous way to immunize yourself against criticism—-you just say everyone voicing concern about your policies is making other people suffer. That must also take some nerve, especially after they’ve said it’s fine to medicate someone with Paxil if they dislike “eating alone in restaurants” or fear hand-trembling when they write checks.

So, what would you say to someone who dislikes speaking in public?

First, I’d urge them to consider how many of us there are who don’t enjoy giving off-the-cuff speeches to colleagues. You’re talking about almost everyone! Then consider that there are easily affordable and widely available organizations out there for public speaking, such as Toastmasters, where people can practice and sharpen their skills. Public speaking is, after all, a skill. It used to be a required course in universities.

More generally, there are umpteen excellent, effective things you can do about anxiety that don’t involve medication. The problem is, meds have become the psychiatrists’ and doctors’ default. They’re proposed even when there’s the glimmer of a problem, as literally dozens of people emailing me about the op-ed in the New York Times stressed when telling me about their stories.

What I’d like, then, is for everyone to think much more carefully about what those meds could do to them or their patient or their child. I’d urge them to consult the medical literature that’s out there, because, I have to say, a lot of it is seriously frightening. Just take a look at the complete list of symptoms for Paxil, for instance, and not the one they used to rattle off in the ads. The complete list is what has fueled so many lawsuits against GlaxoSmithKline, maker of Paxil.

What does any of this tell you about where we are as a culture?

We’ve grown too blasé about these drugs. We’re used to thinking of them as a panacea for common, routine problems, and assume they won’t have any negative effects on us. But the web is chockfull of patient-support groups, with testimonies about the damage and harm these drugs can do. Many of the psychotherapists and psychoanalysts I know voice the same concerns repeatedly, because they often have to deal with the fall-out from medication.

Think about it this way: Since the drug companies sponsor the vast majority of psychiatric research, how many of them would be willing to pay the money required to investigate the side effects of their biggest money-makers? Of course, they want to draw a veil over that huge problem and pretend it’ll go away. But it’s not going to. The problem is just going to get worse. No one paid enough attention to that risk in the 1990s, when Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, and all the others were being touted as miracle cures for everything, even mood brightening.

We need to think what all these meds will be doing to the next generation. What effect will they have on their powers of concentration? On people’s health? On the development and delicate balance of their central nervous systems? Even their capacity to form deep attachments?
People understandably opt for the least distressing solution to their problems. But to think that drugs always will be this for them is, unfortunately, an illusion and a mistake. I’m not saying people shouldn’t seek help. I’m urging them to be smart about the kind of help they ask for.

Posted by Philip Dawdy at October 1, 2007 12:03 AM
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Uh-oh. Sounds like the professor has come down with a case of rationality disorder. Now I guess we'll have to wait for Big Pharma's predictable response.

Posted by: Francesca Allan at October 1, 2007 04:54 AM

Around the same time that shyness morphed into social anxiety disorder, Philip Zimbardo published a book about his method for treating shyness behaviorally. His book, "Shyness: What It Is, What to Do About It", is still in print though I daresay very few psychiatrists know about it or would recommend it. It is a successful approach but that cannot counter the money and pressure behind the medicalization of behavior.

Posted by: Cheryl Fuller. PhD at October 1, 2007 07:54 AM

I've decided to rewrite the beattitudes from the perspective of big pharma and the DSM:

Ill are the poor in spirit,
for they suffer from boderline personality disorder
Ill are they who mourn,
for they shall have a chemical imbalance called depression
Ill are the meek,
for they have social anxiety disorder
Ill are they who hunger and thirst for justice
for they shall be labeled grandiose and diagnosed as either bipolar, schizophrenic or both
Ill are the merciful
for they shall obtain heavy doses of psych drugs
Ill are the clean of heart,
for they shall see a label of schizoaffective disorder
Ill are the peacemakers
for they shall be labeled with adjustment disorder
Ill are they who suffer persecution for justice sake,
for theirs is chemical and physical restraint
Ill are you when psychiatrists reproach you, and
persecute you, and
speaking falsely, say all manner of evil against you,
for money's sake.

Posted by: Sally at October 1, 2007 09:02 AM

oh my god. I love this prof.

Posted by: Lily at October 1, 2007 01:34 PM

I agree with Lily. What an excellent interview, he said everything I've ever attempted to get from my thoughts to the keyboard.

Thanks for that interview.

Posted by: Stephany at October 1, 2007 02:54 PM

I concur, Susan! I want more KC and Katie!

I do think you're doing the right thing, Phil! You're doing an exceptional job here, and I think it will pay off to devote yourself to it full tme.

Posted by: Anders at October 1, 2007 06:13 PM

How does the credibility of one who aggressively promotes sale of a product (book) differ from that of a company that aggressively promotes sale of a product (drugs?)

An English professor professing authority in the diagnosis and prevalence of psychiatric disorders? Suspicious.

Let's presume I ingest this book and so do thousands of other readers hungry for populist dogma. It makes us feel better. We spew its opinions far and wide.

Should we expect that another profit-seeking rag will discredit our intellectual curiosity and trivialize our desire to learn because we read the book? Will it accuse us of being insincere - just wanting to impress our friends by carrying the un-cracked book about? Will it suggest we only looked at the pictures?

Does this book not similarly dismiss social phobia/social anxiety disorder? I assure you that for some people, severe social anxiety resembles shyness or nervousness in public speaking about as much as an English professor resembles a drug company, or a psychologist, or a research scientist.

I abhor the squalid, seamy marketing and advertising practices of some pharmaceutical companies. They undoubtedly lead to self-diagnosis and over-diagnosis of many medical conditions and psychiatric disorders. The medications needlessly prescribed - some inadequately tested - present real danger to users.

Please, let's go after the bad pharmaceutical companies. Ban their advertising, completely. We should have no qualms about that. Support independent research. Promote prudent use of medications, especially among children. Insist on unbiased testing and decision-making at the FDA.

But please, let's be more thoughtful about categorically dismissing an entire disorder or condition. Social anxiety disorder, no matter how it is described in the DSM, presents some people insidious and significant obstacles to accomplishing what most of us consider to be normal social function. Can we save the insipid "pull-yourself-up-by-the-bootstraps-and-get-to-work" moralizing for the government officials that should be protecting us from dangerous pharmaceutical practices?

To be clear, I haven't read Mr. Lane's book. I don't want to, but I will probably check it out from the library at some point so I am prepared to correct faulty notions spewed my way.

Thank you for providing the interview, and the forum for feedback.

Posted by: Da Downs at October 2, 2007 10:21 PM

"But please, let's be more thoughtful about categorically dismissing an entire disorder or condition. Social anxiety disorder, no matter how it is described in the DSM, presents some people insidious and significant obstacles to accomplishing what most of us consider to be normal social function."

Excellent point.

It is one thing to decry the (inappropriate) medicalization of everyday life, and the
associated phenomena of hoards of docs,
drug companie$, and others anxiously promoting
same. But at the same time, these "new"
"disorders" actually do represent serious
personal problems with far-more-than-"personal"
effects on one's life. Someone with severe
social anxieties is all but certain to be
doomed to a drastically diminished life --
socially, financially/professionally,
sexually, and in other ways. SOME of these
problems can be attributed to the pressures
of living in a rather insane, fast-track
capitalist society, high on greed, "growth"
(at any cost), competitiveness, etc. But some
of them cannot. And in any case (even if ALL
of them could), the social/political/economic
solutions are probably generations off -- if
they are ever addressed. Meanwhile, people
suffer. Bigtime.

Posted by: Alan at October 6, 2007 11:29 AM

Excellent interview.

I hope you'll find useful a link to this other interview to Prof. Chris Lane, to get further info about the book:

http://www.psicolinea.it/e_s/e_christopher_lane.htm

Marcello Rossi
www.psicolinea.it
Staff

Posted by: Marcello Rossi at January 11, 2008 08:40 AM

Egad Sally, that was GREAT! I sent it along to about five of my friends, including my minister boss. I hope you don't mind. I love it!
Sherry

Posted by: sh at April 2, 2008 05:07 AM

This book sounds like it was written by an idiot who has jumped to conclusions about something he doesn't understand. People who are diagnosed with SAD also are often later diagnosed with other anxiety disorders such as OCD. Are you all going to tell me that tieing your shoe-laces up 100 times before leaving the house is just normal behaviour that has been capitalised on by pharma to sell drugs?

While "Social Anxiety Disorder" is misleading in the sense that it is not some kind of entity in its own right but rather a set of symptoms chosen due to their similarity, it is also not a myth or just shyness. Shyness and social anxiety disorder are inherently different in that a shy person becomes less shy over time where as a person with anxiety-related problems does not.

While I am highly skeptical of the entire medical industry, I am not stupid enough to write books about something I have never experienced.

Posted by: Stan at February 20, 2009 03:05 AM
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