July 02, 2007A Couple Of Cool Reader CommentsI'm thoroughly blessed to have readers who leave fabulous comments, often saying things I don't dare. Here are two recent examples. One reader apparently wrote the fine folks at the Treatment Advocacy Center after that political action group's attack on the anti-psychiatry crowd: "No reply from Torrey & Co. so I tried again.... I'm fascinated by the bad diagnosis syndrome because I have encountered enough people over the years who were clearly misdiagnosed yet were tossed into psych hospitals, slammed with meds and held even longer when they told docs there was nothing wrong with them. I'd love to hear from more people who've had this unfortunate experience. And in response to my recent post in which I wrote that men do a rotten job of maintaining their psychological well-being: "It's just because men have no place in modern society. Women don't need men anymore, and even the ones that do are calling the shots. We're creatures of control and we're losing our hold on that control more and more. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's wrong or bad or that something should be done. There's not much TO be done about it. Women are better and we all know it." As I've noted before, men's traditional roles have shifted incredibly fast over the last 30 years to ill-defined positions of half-power. That's bad and good. But what interests me the most is that women just don't seem to need men as they once did--have you seen the numbers of single moms out there?--and men don't seem to need women as much either. We are in a post-family, post-relationship world and, while I cannot argue that the classical man-woman model was particularly successful, I am not sure where this brave new world is taking us. But it sure is interesting. Posted by Philip Dawdy at July 2, 2007 09:06 AM
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As a divorced single woman pet owner, dog and cats, I could certainly use a man, in fact some of my best friends are men. As a feminist, I think that some of the changes in the roles of men and women in society have been good, and yet, as a society we seem to have done a poor job of acknowledging the emotional stress and psychological harm that the shifting roles and positions of both men and women take on individuals. Could some of the purported "epidemic" of mental illness be related to changes in the roles of men and women and society's failure to acknowledge these changes? Posted by: Sally at July 2, 2007 10:15 AMJust throwing this out, but what if there is no such thing as a "good" diagnosis? What if every diagnosis is "bad" and everytime we're diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder it's a "misdiagnosis" because really it's just stress responses and life that we're "diagnosing"? There is no test to confirm a psychiatric disorder. I think we really need to move away from thinking of "inappropriate" responses to stress as something that needs diagnosing. We need to understand each individual's particular story and why they have arrived at that point and then try to address their specific needs and change the way they tell themselves their own story. I realize this is idealistic but pooling everyone into some generic pool is certainly not working either and serves no good purpose. It's about as accurate and consistent as sun signs. Posted by: Sara at July 2, 2007 12:50 PM"There is a reply in Dawdy's comment section of that post that really bothers me, because it sounds so sad. I would seriously like to hear from men about what is driving the force of depression, and apparent loss of hope or place in society. I must be old-fashioned in thought because I think men have a place, and I don't think women have stopped needing men. I know I haven't."--stephany I was referencing the comment quote that Philip highlighted, because I think it was a very good comment myself. My comment is from a post of mine, about men and depression. Though my blog is temporarily closed to public viewing, I hope to see a good discussion here, and I hope men give their opinions as well.
TAC will not ever admit that a psychiatrist could make a mistake. Psychiatrists are like G-ds to TAC. Have you seen their latest? When Dr. Torrey Talks, People Listen? Gosh, that's lame. People listen to Paris Hilton too, does that mean she's wise and all-knowing or does it mean some people are stupid? You decide :). Posted by: Alison Hymes at July 2, 2007 06:04 PMNot to be critical of Reader #1's sentiments at all, but just to clarify that some of the wackos associated with TAC consider anosognosia not as a synonym for lack of insight, but rather as a kind of actual brain damage, of which 'lack of insight' is just a symptom. I don't doubt that some new atypical will soon be marketed as "targeting the deficits in higher level neurocognitive processes responsible for blah blah blah..." Posted by: Ruth at July 2, 2007 06:37 PMI completely agree with Sara. Psychiatric labels are not helpful or productive. I've been labeled as bipolar, borderline, and a bunch of other stuff. I have been in the psych ward 30+ times. Once I received those labels, I really hit a new low, mentally. It was only once I decided to shed those labels that I truly started to get better. Now, I absolutely reject the labels I received, and in return, I have HOPE back in my life. I'm off all meds (I was on huge amounts of them for 7 years), and I've never been happier in my life. In 9 months of therapy, I've regained my life, and I'm about to go to my final (for now anyway) therapy appointment tomorrow. I want to scream from the rooftops DON'T PATHOLOGIZE ME!!! Posted by: onlylife at July 2, 2007 10:49 PMIn response to Allison, we'd be better off listening to Paris than to Torrey;). In response to Ruth, yes, once you are accused of being bipolar or schizophrenic, the only two ailments which arise from the brain damage you were born with that causes either bipolar disorder or schizophrenia but also causes anosognosia, challenging the diagnosis is absolute and total proof that it is valid. This "science" comes from TAC with no actual science to back it up. Sorry for preaching to the choir. Posted by: Sally at July 3, 2007 03:37 AMI've commented before on what I now believe was my own misdiagnosis. The short story is that I was brutally rejected by my family when I came out as a lesbian at age 19. In retrospect, I think I had a pretty reasonable reaction to complete loss of my only support system, but that reaction was labeled "bipolar disorder" and I was heavily drugged for 9 years. After vast amounts of really hard work, I am now completely off of meds, reconciled with my family, married to a supportive partner and we are parenting our wonderful toddler together. That said, damage from my diagnosis and years of medication remains, particularly as a "pre-existing condition" that makes it difficult to get health and life insurance. "Homosexuality" may no longer be included in the DSM, but if we are so quick to label reactions to the very real social rejection and pain associated with coming out as "biological mental illness," we haven't come very far. Posted by: milcorban at July 3, 2007 06:33 AMThanks for everybody's input. Surprise, surprise, I never heard back from TAC. If there's one thing that psychiatrists don't like, it's outspoken patients. ("Disinhibited" is a word that comes up in medical records -- it basically means "unladylike.") Re: misdiagnosis, after all these years I'm still fascinated by the Rosenhan experiment in the early 1970s. I just finished reading Lauren Slater's "Opening Skinner's Box" which got me thinking about it some more. I have indeed suffered from depression from time to time but I see it as a spiritual, not medical, matter. In trying to treat my depression, doctors have used the usual arsenal: drugs, isolation cells, electroshock. As a result, I go manic. Is this truly bipolar disorder? There should be a new category for treatment-induced psychiatric illness. We could call it iatrogenic bipolar. Gosh, I feel another letter to TAC coming on. One last point, yes, Torrey does consider "lack of insight" to be brain damage. Like much of his pontification, this is pure speculation on his part, however. The only indicator for the brain damage is ... wait for it ... lack of insight. Posted by: Francesca Allan at July 3, 2007 08:54 PMYou know how if someone wants to scare you, they send you a bullet in the mail? Perhaps we should all just email TAC a link to the photos of Philip's cats. Posted by: Ruth at July 3, 2007 10:07 PMha Ruth, I can see the TAC blog headline now: "Mental health journalist lives on the edge as a cat owner"-Shame on Furious Seasons for endangering public lives promoting cat ownership, not with just one cat but two!" Posted by: Stephany at July 4, 2007 05:46 AMMiss being considered sane, sucking up insanity by the elephant trunk load. Does the first sentence make me crazy. To the Dr. I have always wanted a compendium of novena prayers. Thank you for sharing all these prayers with us. It brings joy and happiness to everyone. I know, I do feel that way. Posted by: judy at May 29, 2008 01:37 PM |
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