February 22, 2007

The Zyprexa Chronicles: Off-Label Fun With CL Psych

During my flurry of work on Zyprexa this week, I have neglected to point readers to the excellent work CL Psych has done the last few days on Zyprexa and Eli Lilly's possible off-label marketing of the drug for use in dementia. Did I say "possible?"

You read this and decide whether Lilly's claim that "Martha," like "Donna" another hypothetical patient, is actually a schizophrenic holds any water. (Hint: It doesn't. It's not even a good lie.)

In addition, he has two other great posts up on Lilly firing up the sales machine to go after the PCP market circa-2001 and how Lilly wanted to reshape how docs treat mood and feeling. I wonder what Lilly's mood is these days and how they are feeling.

I am far from done reporting on these documents. In fact, I will be speaking about them soon, very publicly. More on that later. (Note to faithful Eli Lilly readers: could you get your people to, like, actually return my requests for comment?)

In the meantime, does anyone have any thoughts as to why so many of the hypothetical patients Lilly uses in its PCP campaign are women? There's Martha with dementia. Then, there's Donna, Ashley, Andrea and Cindy all with mild non-psychotic bipolar disorder (aka, BP2). The only man who shows up in the docs I have looked at is "Mark," who is mildly manic.

So is what Lilly trying to say in these documents that Zyprexa is really mother's little helper? Don't laugh. In the 1960s and 1970s, women presenting to a PCP--or GP, as they used to be called--with similar agitation, racing thoughts and mild depression would be put on a benzodiazepine or somethign similar. But doctors determined that those were addictive and out of most doctors' war chests they came. Then came the SSRIs in the 1990s--and they didn't work so swell either. (And, yes, there are serious chemical dependency issues attached to them, along with akathesia, and so on.) And, then the Big Pharma companies want to replace all that joy with an antipsychotic. AstraZeneca has been pushing just as hard on this front with Seroquel as has Lilly with Zyprexa.

I simply cannot wait to see what revelations come out of the Seroquel trial in federal court in Florida. Or the documents.

Posted by Philip Dawdy at February 22, 2007 12:01 AM
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My (general doc, family doc, PCP)prescribed:
Xanax(benzo),Prozac(antidepressant),Zyprexa(antipychotic),Trazodone(trazedone)antidepressant; ALL for my complaints as a woman of the 1990's, and beyond....

For anxiety. It appeared that whatever ailed me in the name of stress, and anxiety: I was prescribed a psychiatric medication.

I have (women)friends in menopause who have been prescribed Prozac and Celexa for "hot flashes and hormonal imbalances".

I gained weight that is humiliating: on an 8 year run of Xanax. (benzodiazepine).

Call me Donna.

But don't call me too early, cause I take Seroquel to sleep.

Posted by: Stephany at February 21, 2007 11:17 PM

Thanks for the link and the kind words. It would indeed be interesting to see any kind of documents related to AstraZeneca's marketing of Seroquel. The lawsuits have started flying and my bet is that AZ had their own version of Mark, Donna, Martha and friends.

Posted by: CL Psy at February 22, 2007 05:01 AM

,,"Then, there's Donna, Ashley, Andrea and Cindy all with mild non-psychotic bipolar disorder (aka, BP2). "

I forgot to add that nearly 8 years after being treated with all of the various meds I listed (in my other comment)for anxiety; that I was officially diagnosed Bp 2 by a psychiatrist just a few months ago.

When I was having my first 'bipolar break down' in October of 2006, it was that same General Doc,PCP--who gave me the Seroquel for sleep, and told me again (!) "this works for anxiety too.".

Seriously, how many meds was that doc going to give me in the generalized name of "anxiety"?( or a woman complaining she didn't feel well? maybe there is marketing stuff sent to doctor's telling them to give these meds to women to shut us up.

Posted by: Stephany at February 22, 2007 08:48 AM

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