January 24, 2007

Atypicals For Kids: Here Comes The Evidence

There was an interesting story last week in Psychiatric Times. It was a curtain raiser on what the reporter promises will be a big year of data for psych MDs. Lots of studies on using atypicals in kids and adolescents--I predict that these short-term studies will show limited efficacy with big weight gain in the kiddos. More clinical data on what anti-depressant combos work best--as if the dead horse hasn't been beaten enough. More data from the STEP-BD study on long-term treatment of bipolar disorder--even though I thought all the main papers came out last year and were pretty much a wipe out. In addition, there will be a recalculation of data from the CATIE study establishing which antipsychotics are most effective in treating schizophrenia--um, why are they going back to restate what the CATIE PIs have made clear over the last 18 months, namely that the atypicals don't work so swell for treating schizophrenia and have a host of gnarly side effects? Whatever.

But what really caught my eye was this:

"And new data on one drug, Zyprexa (olanzapine), will likely be submitted to the FDA this year in anticipation of earning a pediatric indication for either schizophrenia or bipolar disorder."

Oh my. After all the problems that have cropped up around Zyprexa's use in adults, Eli Lilly is pushing to have it approved for kids? That ought to be one very interesting filing with the FDA.

The other atypicals for which data is expected in treating kids are Seroquel, Geodon and Abilify. Not long ago, I ran into a study of Seroquel in kids led by Joseph Biederman, a professor of psychiatry at Harvard and a member of the advisory board for the pharma-funded Child and Adolescent Bipolar Foundation. Here are some highlights of the ongoing study from the clinical trials registry:

"This is an 8-week open-label study aimed at assessing the effectiveness and tolerability of Quetiapine [Seroquel], in the treatment of preschool children aged 4 to 6 years with bipolar and bipolar spectrum disorder. This is an exploratory, pilot study, seeking to determine whether Quetiapine is efficacious and well tolerated in the treatment of preschoolers with pediatric bipolar and bipolar spectrum disorder in this age group." (Emphasis mine.)

And:

"Subjects must have a DSM-IV diagnosis of bipolar I, bipolar II disorder or bipolar spectrum disorder and currently displaying manic, hypomanic, or mixed symptoms (with or without psychotic features) according to the DSM-IV based on clinical assessment and confirmed by structured diagnostic interview (Kidd Schedule of Affective Disorders and Schizophrenia Epidemiological Version). Bipolar spectrum disorder (or sub-threshold bipolar disorder) is operationalized as having severe mood disturbance, which meets DSM-IV Criteria A for bipolar disorder but meet fewer elements in criteria B (only require 2 items for elation category and 3 for irritability)."

This shit is fucked up on so many levels that you almost don't know where to begin. Here goes.

I am against sticking four to six year olds full of an antipsychotic, especially Seroquel. It's well known to cause weight gain in adults and creates so much cognitive slowing and the fifth of whiskey head the next morning that it is utterly unfair to give this to children. In fact, I think it's unethical, especially given concerns that the drug might cause dependency in some adults. The kiddos won't be doing so hot at pre-school the next day, methinks. The study's prospectus doesn't get into what dosage range will be evaluated.

But here's where things get bizarre to my way of thinking. There is no official DSM diagnosis for bipolar disorder in kids, so I am confused as to how you can even do a trial like this with a straight face much less with approval of Harvard's human subjects committee. "Bipolar spectrum disorder" doesn't exist in the DSM--it's a term being batted about by researchers like Fred Goodwin to capture even more people in the bipolar nexus than the docs already can with BPI, BPII and cyclothymia. Even more irksome is that the kids don't have to hit the same kind of manic/hypomanic highs that adults hit in order to get into Biederman's study.

Although Biederman's criteria looks tighter than most studies, I find it bothersome--irritating, even--that the general thumbs-up that this study will no doubt provide AstraZeneca will then be used by clueless PCPs and desperate parents to medicate kiddos who hit the ridiculous standards floating out there that kids only have to have certain traits of bipolar disorder for moments at a time in order to be considered as profoundly manic, for example, as the same symptoms in adults would. Except the adults would need the same constellation of symptoms over a two-week period.

Or am I the only one bothered by such inconsistencies?

I was at a local Barnes & Noble yesterday and ran into at least five books on bipolar disorder in kids. I couldn't even find a copy of The Bipolar Child, the book that kicked off the whole "your irritable child throwing rocks at other kids is bipolar and must take antipsychotics" silliness that's bouncing through our culture these days. I think studies like the above and Eli Lilly's expected FDA submission of Zyprexa for treating bipolar disorder and schizophrenia in kids show us just how far off the peg we are getting in America these days.

Posted by Philip Dawdy at January 24, 2007 12:01 AM
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Applying the (adult) concept of psychotic, manic, and hypomanic to children is ridiculous.

http://www.szasz.com/cchr.html
"Adults have physical and political power over children. This is why sexual relations between adults and children are outlawed and the act is called "statutory rape." For the same reason, we ought to outlaw psychiatric relations between adults and children and call child psychiatry by its correct name, "psychiatric rape."

Child psychiatry -- like all of psychiatric slavery -- cannot be reformed. It must be abolished. "

Posted by: Mark at January 24, 2007 01:42 AM

Got to love the neologisms. Find a drug for the kid, make up a diagnosis second.

If Lilly's PRIME trials with Zyprexa were any indication, all these trials will be a complete failure.

The bigger bioeethical question in my mind is why are the Big Pharma groups so encouraged to stop bipolar "before it starts"?

Posted by: zipzip at January 24, 2007 06:25 AM

Dawdy, you're absolutely ON FIRE with this post. You covered the increasing diagnosis of bipolar in kids concisely yet thoughtfully. Additionally, Zyprexa approval in kids. That ought to be, as you said, interesting. And thanks for "fifth of whiskey head" -- that was grand. Bipolar spectrum?? What's next?

Posted by: CL Psy at January 24, 2007 06:45 AM

You can have my copy of the bp child book.
What I got out of it: the word to get my kid off of antidepressants.(so I did, in 2001.)

Wish it would have said ALL meds.

Posted by: Stephany at January 24, 2007 08:21 AM

Just one more comment:

Speaking of Child and Adolescent Bipolar Foundation--this site,(bpkids.org) along with it's message boards for parents, and at one point working alongside Dr. Demitri Papolos; promoted Early Onset Bipolar Disorder so much, that for parents, this dynamic duo of sorts became to Childhood Bipolar--what Fuller Torrey had become to Schizophrenia information.
The "leading experts" are not always the best.


Posted by: Stephany at January 24, 2007 10:36 AM

I have serious issues with medicating kids with any psychiatric medications. I know there are some kids with ADD/ADHD, but many kids are medicated just because they act like kids.

If my child begins to act BP, unless there is a psychotic episode, I will try all of the lifestyle, living well type things first. Medicating kids (or a lot of us) should be a last resort.

Posted by: kp at January 24, 2007 12:10 PM

kp define psychotic, you can't.
I can give you reasons why people act psychotic, but it isn't a disease you catch.
The invention of ADD/ADHD correspond directly with parents inability, unwillingness, or unlawfulness to physically discipline bad behaviour.

Posted by: Mark at January 24, 2007 07:27 PM

Wow. Good points.

The scary thing is that it'll get FDA approval.

Posted by: Marissa Miller at January 25, 2007 08:47 AM

The scary thing is; it's been used in kids.

When my daughter was 11 yrs.old, a professional suggested Seroquel for her anxiety.(1999).
This while she was already on Depakote,Zyprexa and Zoloft. Instead the doc added BuSpar, which gave her no relief from anxiety and it did give her suicidal ideations, and was removed after 2 weeks.
The anxiety ended, when homework was reduced in school, thus ending the reason (behavior assessment)for the anxiety.

Let the kids be kids.

Posted by: Stephany at January 25, 2007 10:36 AM

One more thing to ponder on. I read that psychiatric drugs stop the female reproducive cycle. As I male, I can say I remember it zeroing out libito, but it returns after stopping the drugs. BUT the big kicker/thing here is that if psych drug are taken during adolescence it makes women infertile. No one talks of infertility and the eugenic effects when drugging children.
Feel free to mention this to someone who believes in drugging children.

Posted by: Mark at January 25, 2007 10:43 AM

Depakote. Warnings (blackbox I believe). For safe monitoring in women under age 20 yrs. old.

Thanks for bringing the topic up, Mark.
The 6 year run my daughter had on Depakote from age 11-17.5 yrs old, has left her on permanent hormone therapy and Polycystic Ovary Syndrome, confirmed by experts.
At age 19 she most likely now can never have children.

http://www.youngwomenshealth.org/pcosinfo.html

Attention women of all ages taking Depakote, especially young girls, teens, under age 20.

As did most of the other meds my daughter was placed on, the blackbox warnings came out too late for her.

It is not too late for other children and teens.

Leave medication for last resort in growing children.

Posted by: Stephany at January 25, 2007 05:27 PM

re:Depakote and Infertile--also cancer risk now in place.

Forgot to add to the Depakote induced Polycystic Ovary Syndrome--- also leaves a woman with a high risk of endometrial cancer. To reduce this risk, the expert that reviewed my daughter's case said she will have to induce menstruation (with medication)throughout her lifetime, as a preventative. The fallout from growing up on psych meds is more than most people understand.

Just another reason why these meds need careful monitoring.

Posted by: Stephany at January 26, 2007 08:30 AM

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