October 25, 2006

Atypical Context

I traded comments and some email with Liz Spikol yesterday. I was a bit imprecise in my thoughts on Seroquel over the last couple of days—OK, I had neglected to add a bit of context—so let me address this.

My criticisms of Seroquel—and other atypicals used for bipolar disorder—are limited to its use as a long-term maintenance med in bipolar disorder (ie, not in its long-term use in schizophrenia). Of course, AstraZeneca is trying to build the case for its use as a long-term maintenance med in bipolar disorder, which they can then call a mood stabilizer. Regular readers know my what my problems are with Seroquel, used as long-term maintenance med. I won't bother repeating them here. (When it comes to schizophrenia, there are no better treatment options than an antipsychotic, sadly.)

I do, however, think that Seroquel and other atypicals can be valuable short-term tools in treating bipolar. They are much more a velvet hammer type of medication than the old antipsychotics ever could be, and are quite useful in treating acute mania and in nuking depression. Despite a rough ride for me using the med long-term, I still use it for a day or two perhaps twice a year to knock down bouts of depression that I'd prefer don't spiral out of control. I won't use it any longer because its side effects are awful—who else doesn't like feeling like they drank a fifth of whiskey the night before?—and depression is generally something I am willing to bulldog my way through without taking neutron bombs to get me through the day.

Besides, when I took Seroquel and other atypicals long-term, I still had bouts of depression, so my incentive to take these meds long-term is zero. And I had the same kind of breakthroughs on all the other anti-depressants I took back when (again, we're talking long-term use here). Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Luvox, Wellbutrin and Lexapro: none of those anti-depressants worked especially well at killing off my depression and Prozac damn near killed me. After all of those meds (plus atypicals later on), I decided I would rely on my own resources in dealing with depression. It's worked out pretty well (I have fewer depressions than when I was on all that other junk—just to be clear for newbies, I now take Lamictal alone), plus my approach is cheaper and has fewer side-effects.

All the same, I ought to come up with a standard disclaimer to use each time I talk about atypicals so that people will be aware of the distinction I make between short-term and long-term use of these meds. If I have to type it anew each time, I'll lose my mind.

Posted by Philip Dawdy at October 25, 2006 12:01 AM
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Bottom line is what works for one doesnt for another and so on. That is the problem with these meds, and that is the key problem with docs dispensing them without hearing anecdotal stories such as yours.

Every person reading this blog has a med story.

Hell, on Prozac I stood on the roof of my car at a mechanic, in the pouring rain, screaming I was going to kill myself. Prozac is my horror story and it was a bitch to get off of too.

My hesitation to start Seroquel is from my own past experiences with all meds. Every one of them gave me a reason to hate it.

I am also treating Seroquel as temporary, and remaining on purpose, low dose.

Not going onto the docs guidelines he has from the FDA on this med.

I didn't personally have depression to knock down, in my case it was mania so bad I was going to end up dead. The Seroquel stopped that.

I could end up being one of the people it works for low dose, long term.

All I know is it save my life. Which does not mean it will save someone else's.

Posted by: Stephany at October 25, 2006 08:14 AM

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