July 05, 2006STAR*D Results Are The Same Old StoryAs I alluded to the other day, the third phase of results from the NIMH-sponsored STAR*D study of anti-depressants are out. The results aren't good, but neither are they a surprise. In phase I, all study patient took Celexa and 27.5 percent of patients experienced remission. Celexa is a prototypical SSRI, so for some of the patients who didn't get symptom remission from Celexa, it was off to two other non-SSRI anti-depressants--either taking the new meds alone or paired with Celexa. Here, in phase II, remission rates ran about 20 percent. In phase III, patients who didn't see results we given either Remeron or nortriptyline, an old tricyclic anti-depressant; neither med is an SSRI. Twelve percent has remission switching to Remeron, while 20 percent who switched to the (very cheap) tricyclic had symptom remission. Oh, yeah: in phase III the trial lasted for 14 weeks, which is pretty short. You can interpret those numbers as you please. To me, they call into question just how wise it is to make patients go on the medication merry-go-round for long periods of time. It's nice to repeat the old mantra that "every patient is different, there will be a med that works for you, keep trying, there is hope." That's OK short-term thinking, but in the long-run it's meaningless. I think docs have got to intervene earlier when patients tell them their meds aren't working and figure out if there isn't another way to skin the cat, so to speak. Whatever way that might be. Interestingly, the STAR*D studies have not been well-covered by the American media, even though they implicitly ask some difficult questions about anti-depressants. Like: how many meds should a patient take before trying something else? But the American media isn't built for that kind of honesty and skepticism when it comes to medical procedures in general, much less with mental illnesses. I don't find that kind of honesty in the lead editorial, which accompanies the study, in the the AJP. Instead, there is the usually hang-wringing and call for how other depression treatment modalities work in the long-term, such as atypicals. I can assure the editorial writer that they suck just as much as anti-depressants. Maybe even more. It's odd that he only asks about other medication treatment and not about psychological therapy. Typical horseshit. Posted by Philip Dawdy at July 5, 2006 12:32 AM
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In the editorial it says this: .."behavior therapy (the cognitive behavior therapy results have not yet been published)." I would like to see those results. I believe that when discussing depression with a doctor the first thing the doc should do is an alternative, non-medicated approach first. Hi, Philip. The third round STAR*D results are definitely major news. We clearly have to rethink antidepressant treatment strategy and we've got the study to prove it. If a patient has failed on two trials of antidepressants we're clearly looking at the falling over the edge of the cliff phenomenon where there is less than a one in five chance of success. The AJP editorial was the usual blather, but the study findings were not. A lot of the study authors (maybe all of them) get very good money from the pharmaceuticals, yet they came out with what amounts to an anti-antidepressant study. Until we get the breakthrough genetic and biological discoveries, we have to work with what we've got. This means being smarter with our current meds and talking therapies. That's what STAR*D was designed for. STAR*D should be publishing results soon on talking therapy. The flaw in the STAR*D study is they probably didn't anticipate such dismal results in round three. There should have been an option to switch these patients onto bipolar meds to see what happens. Yes, I know you have you're skeptical, but we're not going to have any real answers unless we put this to the test. The leading bipolar experts - Goodwin, Akiskal, Ghaemi, and others - are telling us that a lot of so-called unipolar depressions have characteristics of bipolar depressions. This suggests treating these people as if they had bipolar, with mood stabilizers. The catch is we're not very good at treating people with bipolar depressions. We have a long way to go. Posted by: John McManamy at July 5, 2006 09:21 AMI picked up a prescription for Celexa last spring after a 5 minute consultation with a nurse at University Health Services. I wasn't experiencing any depression, but rather a case of what students of yore called "senioritis"- post-graduation anxiety, insomnia, a stressful last semester courseload, ect. I asked if the drug had any side effects and I was told that it did not, except "some increased anxiety in the beginning". For this I was prescribed Klonopin. I just removed myself from Klonopin a few weeks ago, and have gone through the most dysphoric, physically ill hell I could ever imagine. My psych nurse tech tried to convince me it was an episode of mania, but I know better. I know drugs, and I know withdrawal. When I took myself off Celexa following my first and only manic episode, I experienced a similar withdrawal, complete with the dreaded "brain zaps", nausea, headache, deep depression unlike anything I'd ever known, insomnia, difficulty concentrating, and general malaise. These drugs are more often harder to stop than to start. And many people who are on them, and end up missing days and weeks of work or school, are never told that 70% of patients will NOT see a remission of their depression in taking them. Nor will they be informed of the pain and discomfort of withdrawal, which often can mimic an organic depressive or manic episode (not to mention that the drugs themselves can induce them). I certainly never was told, until it was too late. Posted by: Lily at July 6, 2006 02:29 PM |
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